But I don't think we can ever achieve an ideal on earth, we can only make things marginally better. We should be careful of changing things too much, because people are FU'd and the changes people make usually go wrong. In no way makes you progressive......just the opposite.If you were really interested in liberals v conservatives and were more intellectually oriented, I'd suggest you read Thomas Sowell's The Vision of the Annointed and A Conflict of Visions.