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Politics : View from the Center and Left

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To: thames_sider who wrote (9584)1/23/2006 8:19:37 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 541791
 
Leaving aside that neither USSR nor Nazi Germany had gun-control law

They both had gun control. Not that I consider that a very strong argument against gun control but they did have it.

The first 5 points are stronger arguments then the 6th, which is perhaps why you respond to the 6th.

Anyway, that's not my point. Gun related deaths in the US run at 400x the rate in the UK. This, "Fact: Many nations with stricter gun control laws have violence rates that are equal to, or greater than, that of the United States." is irrelevant - I'm talking about gun-related deaths and nothing even in this incredible site argues otherwise.

Its not as much a direct response to your point as a response to the larger issue. The whole argument over gun control and private gun ownership can not reasonably be boiled down just to that one point. Australia initiates strict gun control and "armed robberies rose by 51%, unarmed robberies by 37%, assaults by 24% and kidnappings by 43%. While murders fell by 3%, manslaughter rose by 16%." The UK initiates very strict gun control and violent crime and home invasions rise. DC has strict gun control, Arlington, VA much less strict, but DC had a murder rate more than ten times as high as Arlington's. I would submit that DC an Arlington are at least as alike as the UK and the US. They are next to each other (separated only by the Potomac), they have similar population densities (much closer than the US and DC), the same national government ect. That hardly proves that gun control greatly increases the murder rate or the firearms death rate but it does show that a lot of other factors are involved.

Tim
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