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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!!

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To: epicure who wrote (41159)6/20/1999 4:30:00 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (2) of 108807
 
Okay. I'm going to go back to your original words and read them verrrry slowwwwly.

Martyrs are silly to me. If one could prevent oneself from
dying one should do it.


Hmmm. I read it slowly. Three times. I see NO qualifiers in it. I see no case-by-case review. Maybe you could point out to me, typing verrry slowwwly so I can understand, why these words do not mean what they say.

Martyrs are silly to me. If one could prevent oneself from
dying one should do it.


I read this one, too, verrrry slowwwwly. But I still didn't hear you suggest that there are any exceptions. It's a pretty straightforward piece of writing. No ifs, no ands, no buts, no qualifiers. It's silly to die for a cause. The slowwwwer I read it, the more that message comes through.

Dying for a cause, ANY cause, without a
VERY good reason repulses me


Well, here you did admit that there MIGHT be some reason for dying for a cause, but you sure don't give any examples at all, and the slowwwwer I read it the more it appears that you really put that in there just for a sop and there really is NO reason good enough for you. A plain "very good reason" wouldn't satisfy you; you had to capialize VERY.

And now you write I am rational and like to have actual
facts before me


Hmmm. Would any facts KNOWN IN 1775 have impelled you to offer your life for the possibility (a dim possibility for quite a while) of a new country separate from Britain? And if so what facts, and how would you have rationally analyzed them to decide that this one of those few causes worth offering your life for? Would any facts have impelled you to stand at the rude bridge that arched the flood? I doubt it; I think you would have laughed at those dumb farmers who had the audacity to contest the might of the redcoats.

If you had been alive during the War Between the States, would rationality have impelled you to fight on either side? Or would you have stayed home while those dumb people who believed in something died for their idiot beliefs?

You see, I am indeed trying to read your words verrrrry slowwwwly and figure out what you mean. But you say such different things, it's hard.
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