The church in Rome persecuted Galileo for his investigations and assertions. They didn't want to hear it. What does his being Catholic and having no personal conflict between his discoveries and his faith have to do with that? I have studied Galileo. What happened and who did what.
I'm not conflicting religion with science ~ I'm conflicting a percentage of "the religious" with pretty much everything else.
What's your view of the creationists of our day?
So tell us what DID happen to Galileo. And why. And the "non-simple"
account, that clears the religious assholes of being religious assholes.
<<Kepler and Copernicus did their work under theprotection of Protestant princes in northern Europe. The Vatican cosmologists
couldn't stop them.>>
What are you saying? That they would have, could they? Thank goodness these explorers were outside their totalitarian authority?
Why was the church involved at all? What was their authority? What need or dominion did they have in telling anyone what they could publish? What the hell were they doing there?
<<There is no philosophical conflict between science and religion, but it constantly gets invoked as A Great Truth. Most of the halfwits who parrot this>>
You're mixing three things willy nilly. Science, religion, and religious influence. Organizations. Churches. Culture. Inquisitions. Heresy. Theocracy.
You may call people closed minded halfwit parrots all you want, but it isn't going to sell, young man.
(I really like saying the young man thing, probably even more than you like calling people halfwits and close-minded, so there.)
It has always been a mystery to me why religions tend to seperate themselves from science. I know; you say they don't. To me, the wording of parts of the Bible do imply a realistic cosmology. As if I care that they do or don't.
It's a complete mystery to me why people hassle with a creation myth in the first place. Or even a creation reality. They may both be equally irrelevant.
You make me want to say, so put that in your snoot and snort it. Or my ultimate offense: Who gives a shit.
BTW, you should come up next Spring if you can. It's worth it.
:o)
PS: Saw Zero Effect tonite. Cool.
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