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Pastimes : Don't Ask Rambi
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To: Gauguin who wrote (30482)7/2/1999 11:50:00 AM
From: JF Quinnelly  Read Replies (2) of 71178
 
It has always been a mystery to me why religions tend to seperate themselves from science. I know; you say they don't.

Pierre Duhem discovered the scientific speculations and investigations of the Middle Ages while reading through the records of old monasteries and universities. No one had thought to investigate this aspect of intellectual history until he stumbled over it around 1900. Far from being against science these men were curious about nature and did a lot of the groundwork that led to modern science. Science was pushed forward by the likes of Philoponus, Jordanus, Buridan, Oresme.

So tell us what DID happen to Galileo. And why. And the "non-simple" account, that clears the religious assholes of being religious assholes.

I wasn't attempting to clear the Catholic church for censoring Galileo. I did point out that the Protestants of the same era fostered the science of Kepler and Copernicus. Do these Protestants also get included in your wider set of "religious assholes"? My other point was that the Vatican censors were getting their cosmology from Plato.

<<<There is no philosophical conflict between science and religion, but it constantly gets invoked as A Great
Truth. Most of the halfwits who parrot this>>>

You're mixing three things willy nilly. Science, religion, and religious influence. Organizations. Churches. Culture. Inquisitions. Heresy. Theocracy.

Fine. Then you can start holding the same standard to those who constantly shift between all three when making the opposite case. I just saw the Spanish Inquisition invoked as a proof that Christianity was hostile to science. Halfwits.
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