Lucius,
Yes. You are correct. Larry Ellison's(LE) vision of the thin-client world is based on his own platform and will not do Windows. That is why, when the Java/HTML model starts to encroach on Bill Gates world, it will be very interesting to see how Microsoft handles it. Sure seems like MSFT would really be pushing the Citrix type solution at that time (RDP or ICA).
I don't quite understand the details, but apparently LE's proprietary platform has caused some problems in his sales channel. Some details of this are on the Oracle thread. Appears some of his biggest re-sellers of his database programs feel very uncomfortable pushing 8i on a proprietary platform that excludes what they offer.
The target market for LE's vision is not just mobile computing. Not sure where you got this idea? The target market is the millions of Internet Browser users. Supposedly LE's thin client plans scale to millions. But I believe you are saying this "scaling" is false and I'm not sure why you feel this way?
Comparing CTXS and ORCL vision are not an apples to oranges comparison. See: Message 9259916 The, "Vison," of the two companies couldn't be any closer. Both companies say the same thing but both are attacking the problem quite differently. But it is apples to oranges in some ways that I still am not quite certain of.
Yes, I would guess that 90% of apps are currently deployed via Windows (the article says 72% of developers targeted Windows in 1997). So CTXS has a huge lead in thin-client computing. That is my main argument for the Remote Presentation (ICA) advantage over LE's Java/HTML plans. And there is no, Word, Excel, Access, Powerpoint, etc written to distribute via the Java/HTML model. But supposedly it's coming? But I don't know any details of this at all. I don't even know how it works or if these types of programs will be distributed the same way? It's kind of hazy to me how these types of programs would be deployed in the Java/HTML model.
Your linked article clearly states developers will be targeting the Java/HTML model in the future. How they come to his conclusion, is not stated. It also says in 2001, the Java/HTML will be the primary target for development.
Did you catch the comparison in your linked article about the future outlook between ICA vs Java/HTML solutions? The article directly compares the alternative thin-client solutions. It also states that TSE/MetaFrame model is winning now, but predicts it will lose substantial ground in the future. I considered it just one of those FWIW statements. But it's in the article nonetheless.
Since the Java/HTML push is just getting started, it is going to be incredibly hard to predict what may happen because few people even understand it today. As much time I spent on it, I'm still unclear how it works. And LE has been known to jump the gun quite a few times in his zeal to attack Microsoft. So as far as I am concerned, the conclusions the article draws(which are not favorable to CTXS) are pure speculation.
MikeM(From Florida) |
