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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!!

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To: jbe who wrote (46409)7/22/1999 10:15:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) of 108807
 
Oh, I would never discount someone because of subjectivity. That would be inconsistent with my belief that everyone views events through their own biased lenses, wouldn't it?

OK. A is A. Based on past dialogues (noun) on this thread, I am sure some would say that on some planet A isn't A. But we'll ignore them, shall we? And 4 is 4, and if you aren't color blind, red is red.

Spot gold closed somewhere around $255 an ounce, and a dollar is a piece of paper printed by the United States Treasury on cream colored paper, with green ink. Facts are facts. That's objective.

Now - is that dollar in your wallet real or counterfeit? Is that gold necklace 18K or plated? The truth is objective, but your opinion (without an assay) is subjective.

Ok, then. We see a man hitting a child. Is that abuse? Is he putting out a fire? The truth is objective, but your opinion without more information, is subjective.

Well and good. The final level. We see a man hitting a child, and there is no fire. Is it abuse? Or is it discipline. Here, even the truth is subjective. I can tell you what I saw, and what I thought, but you *must* filter what I said through your own subjective feelings about the discipline of children. I expect that. I don't expect anything else. I don't believe it's possible that people won't disagree, unless the hitting is so light as to be a joke, or so hard as to be a crime.

BTW, we aren't likely to go to court about whether red is red, but whether red is green.;^) And that doesn't really depend on the color of the light, sadly enough.
Is it discipline?
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