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To: RJL who wrote (4690)	7/26/1999 5:41:00 PM
From: wily	Read Replies (3) of 110645

>>Warmer L2 cache? Haven't really heard of it being an issue unless you're overclocking.<< When the celerons first came out with the on-die cache that was supposed to be a plus: that the level 2 cache was being cooled with the cpu. Guess it got stuck in my brain. How hot do the Xeons run and what is too hot for a cpu? My 366's go up to 125F. Do you know why the Xeons run so hot? They have the on-die level 2 cache, right? >>ECC is a waste of time<< Sean and others on the Dream thread would disagree. They see a difference (none vs some) in the number of hangs on their NT systems which they leave running continuously. Is there any disadvantage to ECC besides the price? >>Good point. Many people that go up to 133Mhz or 124 forget about the PCI bus speed. Don't mess with it, or you'll be able to smell that nice new card you just bought smoking. Apart from frying the CPU, the biggest thing is the motherboard that gets fried. The parts on the board are simply not made for overclocking, regardless of what the manufacturer says. You might only be changing the bus speed, or maybe the multiplier, and even if you change the voltage for the CPU, the heat, and voltage going through those parts can fry stuff.<< I think the thing with the celeron 300A's@450 was that Intel had perfected their .25 micron process and the cores were just THAT good, but they didn't want to hurt sales of their premium lines by selling the celerons at faster speeds. The better 300's ran VERY stable and cool at 450. All the busses were in spec at that speed. This is all hearsay since I haven't run an overclocked system before this one, so I could very easily be wrong! Thanks for the suggestions on scsi and memory. They seem like good guidelenes and I'm always glad to have your input. w

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