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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!!
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To: Father Terrence who wrote (51574)8/16/1999 11:38:00 AM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) of 108807
 
Edit: This has to some degree been superceded by the invervening discussion you had. However, I do agree with Neocon here.

An individual or individuals can have rights, not a community.

I disagree. I think my community, not just the individuals in it, has certain rights. For example, the right to maintain law and order. That right can't be given to individuals to exercise as they wish, since your belief in law may be very different from mine. It has to be based on community agreement in some form. The right to restrain individuals from destroying community resources, such as a shared lake or common.

I do, however, recognize that I am using the term right more in its broader contemporary sense rather than in its more restricted natural law sense. Generally I try to avoid that, since many things which today are considered by some to be rights are really privileges. But I still do think that the community does have certain rights of its own.

Edit: If only individuals have rights and communities don't, how do you justify the existence of a police force? Shouldn't each individual just be going out with his or her gun and enforcing what he or she sees as his or her rights? What "right" does the community have to stop them?
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