| Bob, all I can say is huh??? Most of my comments on this thread have been positive with a pinch of investment philosophy. I suppose you are referring to the discussion on Ira Monas and I did ask for the source and was told how to research it. Everything was done straight and truthful. 
 IMO Ira, even if just a rumor, is a serious accusation to put on a company. I'm not here to hear just the goody goody stuff, I want it all out in the open, good and bad, discuss it and then make a decision. I do not attack the messenger either, but will ask for references and a chance to verify a statement if I find it questionable.
 
 And it is extremely rare that I would ever reference a phone conversation with anybody, president, CEO, receptionist or janitor. That kind of dribble is worthless and can not be verified.
 
 I did my DD and I've got a fair amount of HVAR, and as soon as we get off this base that we've been on for the last 11 trading days I'll probably get some more.
 
 After going back thru my posts the only real negative comments (that I could find) are about Ira Monas. That is a subject that should not be swept under the rug or kept secrete from others. If anything else has offended you, we can discuss it. If I am wrong it has happened before.
 
 DuGen
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