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Politics : To be a Liberal,you have to believe that.....

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To: The Philosopher who wrote (2155)9/14/1999 11:34:00 PM
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In your post, you analogize a fertilized oocyte to a Jew in Nazi Germany, and a woman who wants to abort a fertilized oocyte to a Nazi.

You say

<<<Answer me this: on what logical basis can you say that society is entitled to say that Jews are fully human and to kill one, even if you believe they are subhuman, is murder, but that society is NOT entitled to say that the fetus is fully human and to kill one, even if you believe it is subhuman, is murder? >>>

The answer is simply that Jews are fully human, as are the Blacks (in the U.S. connection) and homosexuals you mentioned. And the fact that irrational, ideological stipulations declared them not so does not change the fact.

It is not I, but you, who think you can magically make things be what they are not, by stipulation; and who then desires to force your stipulated, authoritarian definition down the throats of those who don't share it.

There is no confusion about whether the human victims of the Nazis were exactly that, whatever the Nazi hate-propaganda said. Hate-propaganda is what it is.

The only basis for your stipulation that a fertilized oocyte is a human being instead of merely a blueprint for one that under certain circumstances and with the passage of sufficient time would become one, is your assertion that at the moment the sperm joined it, it became "sacred." This is a purely religious belief-- an item of dogma. Because you accept it in all its thought-stopping mysticism, you will, if you have your way, force all women everywhere to live by it, however much suffering it may bring to them. (I say "all." I do not know your personal view on whether young girls impregnated by their fathers, or rape victims, should be included in your compulsory motherhood program. Do you believe they should? Do you believe if your twin daughters are impregnated by a mad rapist, they should be forced by the government to carry and bear his children?)

How ironic that you should choose the argument you do, when the basis for declaring Jews and homosexuals to be less than human lay in Scripture. It still does lie there, and is still stimulating crimes of hatred, still claiming victims.
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