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To: Charles R who wrote (72139)	9/17/1999 7:48:00 PM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH	Read Replies (1) of 1572467

Re. <A while back PB was commenting about PIII-core getting to the 1.2 GHz range on 180nm. If my memory serves me right you were one of the folks that was claiming PIII would not scale past 800 MHz (give or a take a few MHz). What do you make of PB's comment? Could you enlighten us with some details on the reasoning behind your answer.> I'm assuming Intel releases Coppermine with 20A gate oxide at 1.5V. Also, it is based on Intel's device design published last Dec. If they have made any improvement in device design since then, my estimations will be low. We may know by this Dec. If their gate oxide reliability allows them to run a 1.6V, add another 71/2%. I think 800MHz was a given. I wasn't so sure of 867MHz. Either better device design or higher voltage gets them to 867MHz. Both gets them to 933MHz. I don't see it reaching 1GHz. I think you will see 1GHz and above with Willamette in late 2000. I'm also a little dubious of AMD reaching 1GHz any time soon. And unless they get there by mid 2000, it may be too late. I haven't had access to the .25um Athlon or .18um Coppermine physical cross sections YET. Process Boy has seen both.He should know the capabilities of the Intel process.Somehow I think , if Coppermine could easily get to above 1GHz, Intel would do a preemptive strike and release at least 800MHz right out of the chute in Oct. You must realize that in test lots, you very early on run (among other things) channel length splits all the way down to and beyond minimum channel length. So, you know very early on the approx. ultimate capability of the process. And then you work on improving over that. I'm sure both Intel and AMD are doing that right know. Who will execute it better? THE WATSONYOUTH

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