To: ROBERT QUIEL who wrote (133)
From: Riley G Friday, Oct 3 1997 8:24AM ET
Reply # of 54967
Is this you? Seems strange that the only Robert Quiel lives a reported 1 mile of so from Dempsey Mork & Associates and now this. I am not saying it is you, but want to hear so from you.
From public information on the SEC web site!
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Link: sec.gov
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ROBERT QUIEL FOUND TO HAVE PROVIDED INFORMATION TO NASD
The Commission sustained NASD disciplinary action against Robert A.Quiel. The NASD had found that Quiel failed to give provide information requested by the NASD's staff and failed to cooperate with the NASD's investigation. The NASD censured Quiel, fined him $12,500, suspended him for 30 days, and required Quiel to requalify as a general securities representative.
The NASD sent Quiel a series of letter regarding his trading activities in certain securities and his receipt of certain funds. Although Quiel indicated in one of his responses that he was unable to provide any information to the NASD, Quiel admitted at the National Business Conduct Committee hearing that he in fact had responsive information. Quiel also claimed that he was unable to respond because he had lost or misplaced certain records. Quiel, however, failed to inform the NASD about the circumstances of the records' disappearance or any efforts that he had taken to locate them. The Commission sustained the NASD's sanctions against Quiel.
Rel. 34-39056
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Riley G
To: tonto who wrote (45002)
From: Riley G Sunday, Apr 5 1998 8:04PM ET
Reply # of 54967
Well then, Mork lied in his telephone conversations (again, go figure) to me and others then. set the record straight. Who is Bob Q.? Full name please, and what brokerage firm, and or business does he work for?
Riley G
To: Riley G who wrote (44994)
From: tonto Sunday, Apr 5 1998 7:37PM ET
Reply # of 54967
You may want to reconsider the following dd:
Puhrty is not Baker. This is one of the reasons your dd is off track.
I believe Bob Q. is Puhrty.
That means you have another mistake on your list.
Improper information leads to wrong solutions.
Think about what this means to your total analysis.
To: Riley G who wrote (45004)
From: Pugs Sunday, Apr 5 1998 9:08PM ET
Reply # of 54967
There is of course the story he was following Zapara to AZNT<s>
To: s martin who wrote (45026)
From: Pugs Sunday, Apr 5 1998 11:34PM ET
Reply # of 54967
Only you and Tonto ignore me, and maybe its not that I'm too young, maybe you're too old & feeble, I'll spell it out for you...
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Misc (Biotech): Amazon Natural (AZNT)
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To: Kenny Low (5 )
From: PUHRTY Friday, Apr 3 1998 2:07PM ET
Reply # of 38
Dear Kenny
Sorry for the delay. FYI Dempsey is not my employer. I did some
consulting for him around the time he was shorting OVIS. It is my
understanding that he did make up with Zapara. Very interesting story.<<<<<<
Can you read what Puhrty stated, he doesn't mention Zapara not delivering, we know that accounts for 100K shares.....he plainly states" around the time he (MORK) was shorting OVIS"
Are you saying for the record that Mork didn't short stocks, including OVIS , from Canada thru an account he set up for "<EDIT>"?
Pugs
To: s martin who wrote (45029)
From: Riley G Monday, Apr 6 1998 1:29AM ET
Reply # of 54967
Your story holds no water.
GM/RB have not issued 4 million shares to them selves. They still have options to buy between 750k to 2 million shares each of RMIL once the RMCW deal is done. Try reading the 8K at least once in slow mode!
Now for the second item, suppose someone shorted a stock for 4 million shares at $3 (Which did not happen by the RMIL BOD's). That gives the shorters $12 million dollars in their type 3 accounts.
Now the stock goes to say $50 per share in a short squeeze (minimum) and the inside shorters issue 4 million shares to themselves to cover their short positions. This means they missed out on $188,000,000 for a small $12,000,000 profit.
Now lets look at the real story here.
Lets say their are 4 million naked shorts (low ball by some estimates) of RMIL, and these shorts did this at $4 and below. This places the total short revenues at a maximum of $16 million. Now the stock runs to a MINUMUM price of $50 before the certified shareholders start selling any shares to the market. And then only say 5% of their position. In RMIL's case that approx. 140,000 to 150,000 shares of the public float. Well that leaves the shorts with another 3.85 million shares to cover as the price continues to raise NORTH into the higher numbers. But for augment sake, let's say the short average cost to cover is $100 (low ball again by some estimates). So now the shorts are covered at an average cost of $100 x 4 million shares = $400,000,000 US dollars to cover average. A far cry from their max. price of $16 million they received when they shorted it. This average alone shows them a loss of $384 million dollars for the shorts. Once again this may be a low-balled short cover average in this low float stock.
Now lets take the mathematics of this $400 million dollar low-ball average cover price for those greedy shorts in the RMIL market. Based upon average shares owned by shareholders this translates into a whooping profit of around $1.6 million per LONG shareholder (Average shares owned is 16,000 each based upon averages)
So you see, other long shareholders and I understand why the actions to force RMIL out of business with the repeated false SEC complaints and fake press releases, and spoof web sites. Their is also the shills of the MM's and shorts trying to get shareholders to band together and bring civil actions against the company, when none are needed. And let's not forget the bogus civil suit brought against RMIL and myself by one admitted short seller. After all if he is only short a low-balled admitted 100,000 shares at .20 cents ($20,000) and his average cost to by back is also $100. Then he will have to come up with an average price tag of $10 million to cover.
Yes, we understand why the shorts want to slam and discredit RMIL and force them under in a terminal short. And yes, I understand why RMIL and RMCW are not saying anything to anyone concerning the merger and money. They are not showing their cards, and this is driving the shorts crazy!
Let's DANCE,
Riley G
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To: Pugs who wrote (44990)
From: joseph krinsky Sunday, Apr 5 1998 5:24PM ET
Reply # of 54967
PUGS, i belive in you 100%, you are now on to something. BIG. this is going to crack soon. joey. not to much on si.
To: KINGSTER who wrote (44989)
From: Pugs Sunday, Apr 5 1998 5:10PM ET
Reply # of 54967
Kingster,
We've been thru alot together, all of us have shared good-times and bad-times TOGETHER, and we will finish this together!
If Tonto has the responses and can negate my contentions, and Tonto, I admit, these are things I've deduced, I could very well be off track, admittingly.
So instead of your ego constantly dictate you to call me "silly", etc., why don't you for once, address these contentions, enlighten us, and we will all grow from the experience.
* Puhrty stated on the AZNT thread that Mork was shorting OVIS, is he lying?
* Mork is alledged to have shorted RMIL thru Vancouver, is this accurate?
* You say the $10MM has not been rec'd, but , last we heard, Puhr hadn't even given RB & GM a status report. If you indeed are privy to this info, is it insider info? How did you learn of this before Roland & Gary?
* How is it you know s martin's idenity? In what capacity is your relationship?
* Why did Mike Kugler tell Mork to get rid of Baker, Puhrty & ptm.inc, and let him do the work on S.I.? In what capacity do you know Mike Kugler? You are aware he contacted me about being supeona-ed as a witness in Morks civil suit against RMIL, Only Mork, myself and our lawyers were privy to that info, yet Kugler posted to me the exact time I was served?
* Did Dempsey Mork short GIFS ?
* Why did you encourage RMIL shareholders to piggy-back on Dempsey Morks suit against RMIL and post Morks number and later attempt to rally RMIL shareholders to act upon RMIL?
* Why do you seemingly work on behalf of Mork, but never address issues or questions related to Mork? You've stated to; focus on the co., but then you invite shareholders to call Mork to piggy-back on his suit
* Why did you go to Gayle Essary with info regarding GIFS?
* Was Mork shorting GIFS?
* Did you ever satisfactorly provide evidence to the lawyers that you indeed had a 70,000share position in GIFS as you stated?
* Why did you, when you brag about your great DD, buy 70,000shares of GIFS if it was run by a criminal? Didn't your DD , the same DD that discovered the $10MM isn't here, even before Morgan & Breton, discover GIFS was run by a criminal?
* Was Mork shorting GIFS
* Is 'Suisse Private Financing' actually 'Societe'Fianciere' Privee'?...I speak french, and this could be a translation. If they are the same co., why does DVBC's 10KSB have the company's name written in french, and the GIFS release in english?
* If Baker was a compliance officer at Morks' brokerage, and a licensed securities dealer, isn't it unethical for Mork to hire him to slam RMIL on S.I.?
* Why haven't you informed this thread about a form 30 filed with the 15c2-11? That would account for why RMIL may not be trading, will you acknowledge it now? Will you tell the thread what a form 30 is, that it allows the company, by choice to not trade just yet?
* Is/has Mork shorted TVSI?
* Was the same strategy that brought GIFS down, employed towards RMIL, and since RMIL is not run by criminals, failed? The illegal short position cannot be masked by any crimes the company may have commited, hence your presence, s martin, etc. Can you clarify why you are here if I am mistaken?
* Why was it so important to post on this thread while you were on vacation? Is the matter that urgent?
* Besides GIFS and RMIL....how many other BB stocks are systematically being crushed by these illegal activities?
In good faith, I look forward to you finally addressing these questions and making me look even more the fool!, if thats possible!
Pugs
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To: DJ Byrne who wrote (44988)
From: KINGSTER Sunday, Apr 5 1998 4:20PM ET
Reply # of 54967
DJ you are correct,we must stick together.All this crap from s martin and Tonto is bullshit.Tonto I can honestly tell you that I do not know of one person who gives two shits what you and all the other knuckleheads have to say,honest.All of us read this nonsense and shake our heads.We are all together with the exception of a few,and are in total agreement that there is a squeeze.Pugs has been a thorn in your side and rightfully so.Why don't you answer his questions and shut him up?I suspect you can't.We are fully committed to seeing this to the end.Believe it.
KINGSTER
To: Pugs who wrote (44968)
From: tonto Sunday, Apr 5 1998 1:57PM ET
Reply # of 54967
Pugs, it is apparent you have lost sense of reality. While you can
be amusing sometimes with your crazy dd, it is worthless.
<GGG>
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To: tonto who wrote (44962)
From: Pugs Sunday, Apr 5 1998 11:14AM ET
Reply # of 54967
Tonto!
You are soooooo funny!! Again, first off, you have failed to respond or address any contention or claim on this board, you simply brush it off as 'fabricated', yet, you never address these issues or set us straight;
THINGS TONTO WON"T RESPOND TO;
1) Puhrty claiming Mork shorted OVIS
**evidence; Puhrty's post on AZNT stating such
2) Mork having a Canadian Brokerage firm fall under his corporate umbrella, DVBC, now IMAL;
**evidence; DVBC's 1997 10KSB Re; PEMP
3) Mork told Chalie @ AZNT that he "told Zapara to short AZNT"
** proof; call Charlie @ 1 800 726 2066
4) Puhrty said that Mork told Zapara to short AZNT the same time "Mork was shorting OVIS"
** evidence; Puhrty's post on AZNT
5) Mike Kugler told Mork to lose Puhrty, ptm inc., & MaWork 1/Baker and let him "take care of it"
** evidence; Kugler saying so (documented and on file)
6) Mork shorting OVIS/RMIL thru Vancouver/Canada
7) Tonto posted he bought '70K' of GIFS,which is strange because Tonto never posts he purchased stock, he just dissects BB co.'s, and Kugler called for a short squeeze on the GIFS thread, tho later he posts that GIFS shareholders should consider selling. There was a little problem with the TA, it seemed GIFS wanted to be its own Transfer Agent. Investors were demanding certs because there was a problem with too many shares in the float. Of course the BEST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN FOR AN ILLEGAL SHORTSELLER is the company actually being a SCAM....they never have to cover their ILLEGAL, NAKED SHORT POSITION...the head GIFS honcho, lucky for the criminal shortsellers, was a criminal himself....Tonto says he is Mr. DD, he can even post on the RMIL thread that the $10MM was not recieved!! GM & RB, as far as we know, are STILL waiting to hear from Puhr, but Tonto knows the money wasn't rec'd......YET!!!, He didn't do some simple DD to see if the GIFS Honcho had a criminal past, and his great DD led him to buy 70K shares!! Something ain't right Mr. DD !!!
Tonto claims Gayle Essarys tale of Tonto being a "shorty" was fabricated....but it was Tonto who contacted Essary to fill him in on the GIFS story....of course, like me, Essary lied.
OK, now GIFS gets involved with a Swiss financier.....a private funding group, Societe' in french can mean 'company' or 'limited partnership'......Societe'Financier Privee' (Private Finance/or Banking Company) is a Swiss company which falls under Morks corporate umbrella (DVBC) , GIFS hooks up with Suisse Private Financing Co. hmmmmmm? Are these the same company?
Sometimes criminals will murder the victim , then set the place on fire to cover the evidence, A scam masks the illegal shortsellers crimes.
I have much more to posts on this, time is the enemy, I have a Class to teach....I will post what I have been able to gather on the GIFS saga, and relate it to, if not connect it to, the players here, I'm also waiting for a couple of phone calls to verify some of my hunches, or disprove them.
More to come
Pugs
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