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Politics : John McCain for President

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To: chalu2 who wrote (29)10/6/1999 7:03:00 PM
From: Jim TenIron  Read Replies (2) of 6579
 
This is not a response to you chalu2, but I recieved this in an email today from a good friend of mine I was in the Navy with back in 74. Just thought it would be good reading for all.

WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 15 1999
Not saluting Jane Fonda
1999 WorldNetDaily.com
When I was at Camp Pendleton receiving combat
corpsman training, I noticed that the pickup truck
belonging to the gunnery sergeant in charge of our
training was adorned with bumper stickers
containing extremely unflattering remarks about
Jane Fonda. I also noticed a few referred to Ms.
Fonda and Vietnam, but at the time I honestly had
no idea why.
Being an E-5 and close to rank to our E-7 gunny,
after a training rotation one afternoon I decided to
ask him about those stickers, and what they had
to do with Fonda.
He muttered a few obscenities and proceeded to
tell me the story. Fonda, he said, became a traitor
during the Vietnam War -- a war in which
"gunny" had served two tours and for which he
had received three Purple Hearts (which is why he
enjoyed training Navy corpsmen to be Marine
Corps combat corpsmen -- they'd saved his life a
time or two).

The following excerpts are not "gunny's" words,
but when I received them in an e-mail recently, it
reminded me of his story. And, as ABC's Barbara
Walters prepares to honor the traitorous Jane
Fonda during Walters' "100 years of great women"
program soon, I thought the American people
needed to hear this story again. You see, Fonda
isn't just exercise videos and the third wheel in
"Nine to Five" (the movie).
"There are few things I have strong visceral
reactions to, but Jane Fonda's participation in
what I believe to be blatant treason, is one of them.

Part of my conviction comes from exposure to
those who suffered her attentions.

"In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival
School, a colonel, was a former POW in Ho Lo
Prison -- the Hanoi Hilton. Dragged from a
stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and
dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a
visiting American 'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and
humane treatment' he'd received. He spat at Ms.
Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During
the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the
camp Commandant's feet, accidentally pulling the
man's shoe off -- which sent that officer berserk.

"In '78, the AF colonel still suffered from double
vision -- permanently grounding him -- from the
Vietnamese officer's frenzied application of a
wooden baton.

"From 1983-85, Col. Larry Carrigan was
347FW/DO (F-4Es). He'd spent 6 [product] years
in the Hilton -- the first three of which he was
listed as MIA. His wife lived on faith that he was
still alive. His group, too, got the
cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a
'peace delegation' visit.
"They, however, had time and devised a plan to
get word to the world that they still survived.
Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his
Social Security number on it, in the palm of his
hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets
like, 'Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?' and,
'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from
your benevolent captors?'"

"Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all
without missing a beat. At the end of the line and
once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked
disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in
charge ... and handed him the little pile of notes.

"Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Col. Carrigan was almost number four.

"For years after their release, a group of
determined former POWs, including Col.
Carrigan, tried to bring Ms. Fonda and others up
on charges of treason. I don't know that they used
it, but the charge of 'Negligent Homicide due to
Depraved Indifference' would also seem
appropriate. Her obvious 'granting of aid and
comfort to the enemy' alone should've been
sufficient for the treason count. However, to date,

Jane Fonda has never been formally charged with
anything and continues to enjoy the privileged life
of the rich and famous.
"I, personally, think that this is shame on us, the
American Citizenry.
"Part of our shortfall is ignorance: Most don't
know such actions ever took place.
"The only addition I might add to these sentiments
is to remember the satisfaction of relieving myself
into the urinal at some airbase or another where
'zaps' of Hanoi Jane's face had been applied."

And there is this account:

"I was a civilian economic development advisor in
Vietnam, and was captured by the North
Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
1968, and held for over 5 years. I spent 27 months
in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in
Cambodia, and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi.
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in a leprosarium in Ban Me Thuot, South
Vietnam, whom I later buried in the jungle near
the Cambodian border.

"At one time, I was weighing approximately 90
lbs. (my normal weight is 170 lbs.). We were Jane
Fonda's 'war criminals.'"

"When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
the camp communist political officer if I would be
willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I would
like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs
were receiving, which was far different from the
treatment purported by the North Vietnamese,
and parroted by Jane Fonda, as 'humane and
lenient.' Because of this, I spent three days on a
rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms
with a piece of steel re-bar placed on my hands,
and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my
arms dipped.

"Jane Fonda had the audacity to say that the
POWs were lying about our torture and treatment.
Now ABC is allowing Barbara Walters to honor
Jane Fonda in her feature "100 Years of Great
Women." Shame on the Disney Company.

"I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
for a couple of hours after I was released. I asked
her if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She did not answer me, her husband (at the time),
Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was mind
controlled by her husband. This does not
exemplify someone who should be honored by
'100 Years of Great Women.'"

"After I was released, I was asked what I thought
of Jane Fonda and the anti-war movement. I said
that I held Joan Baez's husband in very high
regard, for he thought the war was wrong,
burned his draft card and went to prison in
protest. If the other anti-war protesters took this
same route, it would have brought our judicial
system to a halt and ended the war much earlier,
and there wouldn't be as many on that somber
black granite wall called the Vietnam Memorial.
This is democracy. This is the American way.

"Jane Fonda, on the other hand, chose to be a
traitor, and went to Hanoi, wore their uniform,
propagandized for the communists, and urged
American soldiers to desert. As we were being
tortured, and some of the POWs murdered, she
called us liars. After her heroes -- the North
Vietnamese communists -- took over South
Vietnam, they systematically murdered 80,000
South Vietnamese political prisoners. May their
souls rest on her head forever."

In the words of Paul Harvey, America, "now you
know the rest of the story."
ABC and Babs Walters will undoubtedly include
"Hanoi" Jane in their televised celebration because
their black souls are too hardened and too imbued
with an anti-American sentiment to do anything
else. And ultimately, they will all answer for what
they have done in their lives. In the meantime, I
don't plan on watching anything that has Jane
Fonda's face anywhere near it. I won't buy her
videos; I won't rent or go see her movies. As far as
I'm concerned, she's already dead to me.
Whether or not you agreed with the war in
Vietnam, whether you're a Vietnam vet or a
former member of the protest movement, or
whether you're too old or too young to have been
there, the behavior of Jane Fonda towards our
own military men is reprehensible beyond belief.
All I ask is that you think about these accounts the
next time you see her. Let your conscience guide
your actions from there.

Jon E. Dougherty is a contributing editor to
WorldNetDaily.=
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