Saturn V - <I agree that the Coppermine will improve performance significantly over the PII/Celeron/PIII in memory intensive benchmarks Specifically: A. The Coppermine has a 8-way L2 cache compared to 4-way. This will reduce the incidence of L2 cache miss. B. The 256 bit wide data path from L2 to L1 will reduce the L1 fill time, slightly reducing the penalty of a L1 cache miss. C. The deeper bus buffers will reduce the impact of a L2 cache miss. This will allow the system to scale easily as the processor clock speed in increased without a proportional increase in memory speed. I have worked with memory intensive applications with P2 and I found a 3-7 clock penalty for a L1 miss, and a 30-70 clock penalty for a L2 miss. So I believe that these enhancements will be significant. However if the processor automatically prefetched adjacent pages, explicitly via SSE software or implicitly via hardware, the performance improvements will be even greater. So if the compiler can automatically generate the SSE instructions, even greater performance enhancements are possible.>
Thank you for this. Very nice summary.
<So it appears the Coppermine architectural tweaks , along with further process optimisations you have alluded to, can keep the Athlon at bay, until Williamette shows up,and shows Intel's seventh generation architecture.>
Remember what that AMD-Europe Marketing guy said in June? He was crowing about how the PIII couldn't possibly compete with Athlon, and a bunch of "Where's Willamette" stuff?
It looks like Coppermine will compete quite well with a "seventh generation core". I wonder what Willamette will do? Maybe worth the wait, if Coppermine is able to "keep K7 at bay", as you say.
Saturn, any thoughts how Cascades products would take advantage of these features? I.e., workstation performance.
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