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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: Ali Chen who wrote (76962)10/25/1999 10:20:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (4) of 1576859
 
Ali, <And what exactly does your "overkill" mean? How it comes that a super-duper 3.2GB/s memory suddenly stops working on ordinary applications?>

Because the Coppermine processor doesn't need it. And certainly "ordinary applications" don't need it, either. No one is going to buy an 840 system just to run Netscape. Then again, no one is going to buy your beloved Athlon system just to run Netscape, either.

<And how it is obvious to you that MS Word, PPoint and Netscape do not benefit from better memory? Do they load their codes out of air? Don't they paint windows walking through enormous linked lists of numerous Windows data structures (or whatever)?>

Come Ali, you're smarter than that, no matter what your pal Elmer Fudd (or is it Phud?) says. Most of the memory traffic you're talking about is done inside the L2 cache. By the way, I know for a fact that Business Winstone 99, a benchmark suite that includes those three applications, among others, only takes up 7% of the FSB bandwidth. (Remember what I said about "overkill," Ali?)

<Did you say one time that you are working on chipsets, and therefore are somewhat an expert?>

Judging from your comments, I can plainly see that I'm much more of an expert than you are, despite my very few years of experience in the industry. On the other hand, I dare not challenge your expertise in screwdriver mechanics ...

<In conclusion, the Intel RAMBUS platform, even if it sometimes works, is a performance joke.>

Are these 3D Studio MAX scores a joke, Ali?

Athlon 700: 45.1 (lower is better)
Pentium III 733EB on 820: 45.6

Gee, didn't AMD blow away Intel in 3D Studio MAX in the recent past? Now it seems that gap has been closed.

Or how about these SYSmark 98 scores, Ali?

Athlon 700: 297 (higher is better)
Pentium III 733EB on 820: 298

Or how about these Quake 3 scores, Ali?

Athlon 700: 128.6 (higher is better)
Pentium III 733EB on 820: 136.1

(See anandtech.com for details.)

Still think Intel's Rambus platform is a joke, Ali?

To be fair, I'll admit that I was being selective in my benchmark results. But even so, Intel's Rambus' platform combined with the L2 cache enhancements is making the old "sixth generation technology" look a lot like AMD's "seventh generation technology!"

And that's something that even a screwdriver like yourself can understand.

Tenchusatsu
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