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Pastimes : Ask God

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To: Bill Ounce who wrote (6628)4/12/1997 12:53:00 AM
From: hpeace   of 39621
 
bill,
1. carmen doesn't have to worry about bibles not being in schools.
supreme court has reaffrimed that recently.
Did you know that my 12 yr old is studying releion in world culture class. They take bible test , not they also learn about the other religions. The supreme court says this is legal.
It not overboard since hate groups and satinist cannot have a club at school<g> they(supreme court) issued guidelines.

2. carman knows that not all the founding fathers were christians.
plus he knows they were a wide range of christians in their beliefs.
You must not force all christians into your mold.
Carman doesn't .
I also disagree with alot he says. But, it's America. he should have the right to say them.
No teenager that listens to his music will
get a mesaage that drugs,sex before marriage and a host of other things are okay. The kind of things that you would not want your daughther to do. Do you want your daughter on drugs<g>

3. you are really mixed up about thomas Jefferson. Carmen thinks that
that Jefferson was a on the bottom end of christian rights.
He did mention him. But, he was compromised into many of those positions.
By the way..separation of church and state is NO WHERE IN THE
IN THE CONSTITUTION OR ANY DOCUMENTS.
It's part of a court redition few decades ago.

4. This is one song that carman has. How would you like it if you got drunk one time and I deduced that you are drunk all the time.
The song is about balance. Which by the way The supreme court agrees with. (not much of a case)
The courts allow prayer in school if kids do it on their own, they allow bible clubs. They even have to say that the club is christian and mention Jesus if that is part of the announcement.
The song is about schools who do not know the law. They learn the law quick when they try to abridge any christians rights in schools.

5. His song by the way has been upheld by the Supreme court.
What planet have you been on<g>
Plus, you are condemning Carmen for something he has the right to do. I don't agree with all his interpretations in the bible but I'll die for his right to say them. I don't force all christians to beleive like me or even want them to.
That isn't going to happen. When Carmen loses the right to sing about what some schools are doing when they are breaking the law then something is wrong. This is not a worship song. It's a parable.
Educational song. that's it.

6. Your honest and truthful statement means that everyone must accept your defintion of the bible.
That is a waste of time. It will not happen.
He beleives Jesus is Lord and there is no way I or you will ever do more for a lot of kids.
I know what he does with a lot of his profits. He help kids.

7. on dishonest statement. Name one law he is breaking. In fact he is educating schools NOT TO BREAK LAWS. THE ARE PUTTING KIDS IN JAIL FOR CARRYING BIBLES TO SCHOOLS AND PRAYING IN SCHOOLS, AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS DIED FOR.

8. music is of the light or or darkness.
I can have my opinion. I'm not for censureship here..are you.????
I'm not condemning you for the music you listen to. Have I???
Why can't I have an opinion too.
I do have two teenage daughters that are not rebellious, defend me instead of their friends when they say I wrong, I don't have to worry about sex before marraige, the TV they watch, the movies they watch.
One's 16 and already been on missions to south America twice.
Jesus said guard the ears and eyes they are the portals to your soul.
My kids are living proof of this.

9. Carmen doesn't want to stomp out anything. neither do I . We want the right to exercise free religious speech.
We've already won that now. The song just educates people of rights.

10. where do puritans come into the discussion. Carmen doesn't support their actions and neither do I. we are for christians choosing their
own rights and interpretations. He has a right to vote and want prayer in school.
He has already one that. Any kid can pray in school.
In fact as long as there are math and physcis tests prayer has been in schools<g> It never left.
You mean you never prayed before a physics test

11. I absolutely disagree with expecting christian musicains to be perfect and have my interpreation of the bible.
I unite with all christians that have Jesus as their Lord.
We shouldn't expect them to interpret every area of the bible the same. We should also be allow to vote how we want.

12. I don't know anything in carman's song that is illegal or dishonest. It's a parable that's it.
So, much on one song that was to educate christians on their freedoms and rights. Doesn't make sense.
Didn't you know that christains can already do the stuff in that song in schools??????? And he has a right to sing his opinion about some of the issue that he thinks hurts America and especially kids. Thats where his minsitry is. That's where he puts alot of his profits.
There is no blashemy in that song..none. It just doesn't fit your interpretation of the bible. That's not blasphemy. That isn't what God defines as blasphemy. The song is a parable not a worship song.
Again I say that I don't agree with carmen's interpretations of the bible, but he has done more for getting kids off drugs and to have sex after marraige .

Gee a 12 point answer.
I still think the real issue is you have not heard much christian music. You are talking gaines and Wynin and Carmen.
I'm not knocking them. but they are 10,000 miles away from janis and vaugh and jimi. There is something funny here.
haven't you heard any christian music??? I think we are debating and you don't know what we are talking about if you haven't heard the stuff becuase you live in a area that doesn't have any????
you have mentioned the word honest alot in you post.
be honest. Have you heard alot of the music I'm talking about????

I'm still way ahead of water on this corrrection.
I pulled alot of my money out( God sent me a dream ) and have been writing naked puts to get back in.
Haven't been putted yet. I did get Amd at 41 but it will be 71 in january. I'll write calls all the way up.

Okay, Have I been debating music and you are in an area where satan hasn't allowed it to be played.???? This has got to be the case since you think that all music is worship. This isn't true. but, some fundamentalist preach this.

Lastly, what stocks are you watching now.....
God will let us mention that on this thread. I'm positive.

God bless... I've been waiting up for the 16 yr old.
She got back a few minutes ago.
Before midnite.. that's early. I'm proud of her.
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