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Microcap & Penny Stocks : Zia Sun(zsun)

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To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (5420)11/2/1999 10:06:00 PM
From: StockDung  Read Replies (1) of 10354
 
He once called executives of one company, ZiaSun Technologies, "conning, lying,thieving rubes," for example. Not surprisingly, Mr. Schneider's work has drawn some fire.

"Mr Roger's responsibilities include, among other things, monitoring message boards, like Raging Bull, and correcting any inaccuracies or misinformation about ZiaSun and any of its subsidiaries."

"I'm actually kind of good at what I do. I went outside my competence, made a terrific mess, and all I can do is apologize. I don't think it will go over very well here, or with Tony Tobin."

"I tried to close it out cleanly, didn't realize the computer remembers the login name, and shot myself and all of us in the foot."

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By: PresCEO
Reply To: None Sunday, 28 Mar 1999 at 12:47 AM EST
Post # of 10617

ZIASUN TO INVESTIGATE

Steven Rogers is an employee of Momentum Asia Inc, a wholly-owned subsidiary of ZiaSun Technologies Inc (ZSUN).
"By the way, what does Tony Tobin's writing look like. Have you an example of it?"

Frank Ching.

Mr Roger's responsibilities include, among other things, monitoring message boards, like Raging Bull, and correcting any inaccuracies or misinformation about ZiaSun and any of its subsidiaries.

We will be looking carefully at Mr Roger's recent activities on Raging Bull to ascertain whether he has overstepped his brief, and (if deemed necessary) take appropriate action.

ZiaSun is a serious company with a great future, which we do not want jeopardized.

I am not a regular follower of this message board. Too busy working on a number of exciting projects about to be launched and/or expanded!

But, I would be happy to answer any questions by e-mail.

Anthony L Tobin
President and CEO
ZiaSun Technologies Inc
atobin@ziasun.com
www.ziasun.com

By: invest2020
Reply To: 77 by bighittman Saturday, 27 Mar 1999 at 1:01 PM EST
Post # of 5730

For the last time, really.

I posted as two different people. That was a total mistake. I did NOT lie, I did NOT hype, I did NOT reveal inside information. I think if you read the posts that will be clear. I wanted to provide useful information, I did it wrong. Nobody asked me to post. I asked my boss for permission to post. It was first refused, then granted with restrictions that by that time I had already violated. I tried to close it out cleanly, didn't realize the computer remembers the login name, and shot myself and all of us in the foot.

I'm here at 2AM reviewing the fact that I will in all likelihood be fired on Monday morning, losing a job with a company I like working for and which I think has terrific prospects. Believe me, I feel like death, and I'm sorry if I don't make sense.

Doc, if you have people in Manila and HK, please send them to our offices and report what you hear, That would at least help to undo what I've done. HK address is on the website. Manila is not, it's new. The address is Penthouse 3, Manila Luxury Condominium, Pearl Street, Ortigas Center. Phone is (632) 637 3508. Talk to Mike Palacios or Mike McCusker. Real people, doing real work, they won't know anything about anything to do with IR, they're strictly production people. As I was. If I wasn't a bloody idiot cubed, that's what I'd have stayed.

I'm actually kind of good at what I do. I went outside my competence, made a terrific mess, and all I can do is apologize. I don't think it will go over very well here, or with Tony Tobin.

It's not just expecting to lose the job. It's knowing I've screwed people that I have a lot of respect for, people that trusted me, and it feels really, really, bad.

I don't think you guys need any more of my self-flagellation; I'll go and do it in private. Please don't judge the company by me.

Desperation is the mother of invention

"I asked my boss for permission to post. It was first refused, then granted with restrictions that by that time I had already violated. I tried to close it out cleanly, didn't realize the computer remembers the login name, and shot myself and all of us in the foot."

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By: invest2020
Reply To: 77 by bighittman Saturday, 27 Mar 1999 at 1:01 PM EST
Post # of 5730

For the last time, really.

I posted as two different people. That was a total mistake. I did NOT lie, I did NOT hype, I did NOT reveal inside information. I think if you read the posts that will be clear. I wanted to provide useful information, I did it wrong. Nobody asked me to post. I asked my boss for permission to post. It was first refused, then granted with restrictions that by that time I had already violated. I tried to close it out cleanly, didn't realize the computer remembers the login name, and shot myself and all of us in the foot.

I'm here at 2AM reviewing the fact that I will in all likelihood be fired on Monday morning, losing a job with a company I like working for and which I think has terrific prospects. Believe me, I feel like death, and I'm sorry if I don't make sense.

Doc, if you have people in Manila and HK, please send them to our offices and report what you hear, That would at least help to undo what I've done. HK address is on the website. Manila is not, it's new. The address is Penthouse 3, Manila Luxury Condominium, Pearl Street, Ortigas Center. Phone is (632) 637 3508. Talk to Mike Palacios or Mike McCusker. Real people, doing real work, they won't know anything about anything to do with IR, they're strictly production people. As I was. If I wasn't a bloody idiot cubed, that's what I'd have stayed.

I'm actually kind of good at what I do. I went outside my competence, made a terrific mess, and all I can do is apologize. I don't think it will go over very well here, or with Tony Tobin.

It's not just expecting to lose the job. It's knowing I've screwed people that I have a lot of respect for, people that trusted me, and it feels really, really, bad.

I don't think you guys need any more of my self-flagellation; I'll go and do it in private. Please don't judge the company by me.

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For the last time, really. I posted as two diffe
#80, Posted on Saturday, 27 Mar 1999 at 1:01 PM EST
[ZSUN]: Ziasun Tech
Truth. You're not confused at all. You're sma
#75, Posted on Saturday, 27 Mar 1999 at 8:02 AM EST
[ZSUN]: Ziasun Tech
I've got to run home in a minute (Saturday aftern
#72, Posted on Saturday, 27 Mar 1999 at 3:49 AM EST
[ZSUN]: Ziasun Tech
We seem to be building a new base in the $10-12 r
#55, Posted on Thursday, 25 Mar 1999 at 7:38 PM EST
[ZSUN]: Ziasun Tech
The barter company is probably a better deal than
#44, Posted on Monday, 22 Mar 1999 at 7:44 PM EST
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You made my night with that one, cash4us. I'm st
#40, Posted on Monday, 22 Mar 1999 at 10:01 AM EST
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No, I'm not in xnet, though I watched the perform
#36, Posted on Sunday, 21 Mar 1999 at 11:11 PM EST
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I live and work in HK; friends of mine are person
#34, Posted on Sunday, 21 Mar 1999 at 10:04 PM EST
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I've been holding this for 6 months, sold half at
#32, Posted on Sunday, 21 Mar 1999 at 9:47 PM EST
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By: invest2020
Reply To: None Saturday, 27 Mar 1999 at 8:02 AM EST
Post # of 5730

Truth.

You're not confused at all. You're smart, I've been uncontrollably stupid, we have a final confession before I go to get my butt deservedly whipped by a whole line of people.

Sequence of events:

1. I posted on the SI thread, and was told not to by my own people.
2. I decided entirely of my own accord, no prompting from anyone, that since I couldn't post as me, I would post as someone else and provide useful information to all. Dumb.
3. I received permission to post as myself, did so on SI, and was invited in completely good faith, by people who knew nothing of any of this, to post here.
4. I decided with huge relief to get rid of this fictitious person forever and just be me.
5. The computer remembered who I wasn't, and announced it to all, as you noticed.

So now I do the only thing I know how to do when I've f--cked up big time, which is to come completely clean, apologize, and walk away. I will surely be told on Monday that I am never to approach a ZSUN message board again for all eternity. Which I would do without being told, as I obviously don't belong here. Seemed so innocent at the time.

Not that I have any credibility left, but actual substance of all posts is absolutely and to the best of my ability true.

I am completely aware of the ramifications of this one, and that I've done more damage to all of us than I could have ever hoped to prevent. The intention was good, the method dead wrong.

Once again, nobody told me to do that, and I am going to be in the sh-t big time when the e-mail I just sent to my own people gets read. Whatever comes back is on my head and mine only.

I guess that's enough. Not enough, really, but what else can I say?

Good luck to all.

HMMM.. same post on 4 threads.. trying to cover shorts tomorrow?? Come on, fes
#99, SlamDunk1, Mar 30 1999 7:54PM
profit taking tommorow , but zsun will return ! i expect to see in the teens w
#98, ezmoney, Mar 30 1999 7:26PM
To my knowledge, full audit is proceeding as we speak and SEC filing will occu
#97, Oliver Schonrock, Mar 30 1999 5:30PM
Stock is holding up well for the past few days. Seems few traders getting out
ect ect ect
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