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Pastimes : Jesus

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To: Brumar89 who wrote (1737)11/6/1999 11:42:00 AM
From: Berry Picker  Read Replies (2) of 4775
 
RE>>Sorry, you're wrong about that. I don't believe as you do.<<

That's too bad perhaps if you continue...

RE>>"tell tale signs" (i.e. ways you can twist the meaning),<<

Perhaps I should have remembered that your questions are not as sincere as you make out and that I am on trial in your mind and not the Word of God. Here is that "tell tale sign"

Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

The term greasy grace is not in the Bible it is slag for the above BIBLICAL WORKERS of INIQUITY "tell tale sign"

Psalms 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

RE>> Clearly you are a Calvinist, but what denomination?<<

John Calvin would not have called me a "Calvinist" He would have called me a Protestant Christian ! He would have called you confused.

RE>> So let me ask you about your religious
background<<

My parents originally took me to an Anglican Church until I was about 11 years old. My mother stopped going when I was about 6 years old and my father took me by himself. He went to Church to sing in the Choir and show off His singing voice He never read the Bible and quit when I was 11 because he wanted to divorce my mother.

I never really took church too serious.. I could see all the "trimmings and politics"

I went to live with my grandmother in grade 10 because home life was pretty much shot and she wanted to reform me. I was cursing God pretty heavy and smoking a lot of cigarettes likely would have ended up in jail . Part of her REFORM was to go to Church every Sunday.. I didn't care really she was sweet and well meaning at heart.. She actually believed all that stuff I went to what they call Confirmation Classes

One day I asked the "Pastor" What is this all about anyway ??

He was stunned and said What ?

I repeated the question ! Confirmation ??

Well he said.. When you are a baby your parents bring you into the Church and baptize you and then When you are old enough to think for yourself YOU CONFIRM that you do indeed want to be a part of the church by your own volition

Well I quickly replied I didn't decide to be here, my grandmother is the one who put me in here

At that point each and every one ( ALL )of the kids began to confess the same thing.. not one of them was there except to make mom and dad happy.

The Pastor then did the home visit thing and told my Grandmother ( although I had never cursed in class ) that I was very disruptive and was spoiling everything... The simplest truth sure screws up man made religion eh :-}

RE>>And how did you come to your beliefs?<<

I am one of the Chosen.. I left the "church" after I moved back to my Dad's house ( no more mommy ) in grade 11. I had served the rest of my time there quietly giving up on God period. I then just waxed worse and became the proverbial HIPPY...Completely Conformed to this World :-}

God however came and GOT ME ... I was not interested... I had the church in a box... I was not unhappy nor sensing any stupid so-called VOID in my LIFE ! I was like you oblivious to my need of Salvation. He moved upon me .. and I doubt your interested so I will leave it at that because it was a long drawn out process...
I was Born Again by the power of the HOLY GHOST !

That is how I KNOW I am one of the ELECT

Thankfully God did not care that I was IMMUNIZED by the church against Him !

RE>> David Koresh could do this too<<

To be honest no one in my mind has ever proven this man was guilty of anything other than self defense... He never made it to trial that is for sure ( innocent until we think different ?? ) I have heard accusations that He was sexually immoral but surely if that was true would not the FBI have made this well known to defend their actions ?
David Koresh is not the issue here in any case... Neither you nor I have a hope of seeing any "evidence" for ourselves concerning that affair. They burned the whole thing to the ground, children and all !

Is that your next ploy to group me with mad men ??

That is what they did to Jesus to their own hurt :

John 10:20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

RE>>I understand he amazed divinity school graduates<<

Trust me that is not hard ! So called experts.. HAH !
The universities and churches turn them out in droves..
They are a joke to me and My GOD !

There was a recent survey taken at a major Theological Seminary by a group of people like me ( there not a lot of us these daZe ). They asked about 100 men who where only two months from graduating about 100 questions...

How many books in the Bible ? ( Not what are they about just how many ) 5 people got it and only 15 were within 5 away.

What are the epistles - One soon to be so-called teacher of Truth answered " The apostles wives "

What are the Ten Commandments.. More than 50% could not get that right. My 3 year old is ahead of these EXPERTS !

RE>> The verses are from all over<<

I can show you what I say from a single area if you would trust that more.. however at this point I want to know if you really playing fair or just a tempter. I can easily take you through consecutive verses that PLAINLY teach what I say about salvation is true. If your accusing me of "twisting" the scriptures have you check your own Bible at the areas I have quoted from ??
I Give the Chapters and Verses !

Is it beyond your imagination that God may be directing you to hear what I say ??? Or have you so given up on Him and yourself ?

Luke 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.
Hebrews 3:15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

I will take you VERSE by VERSE through unrefutable scripture but are you listening or just trying to simply defeat me ?

Acts 5:39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
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