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Pastimes : Jesus
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To: Chris land who wrote (2052)11/18/1999 1:02:00 AM
From: monu  Read Replies (1) of 4775
 
Chris, I think people are missing the point.
God will not reveal himself to anyone who isn't willing to humble themselves before him. He alone knows the heart. The prayer in John 17 is not the only prayer. For instance, we are taught to pray for "believers" safekeeping as well as for those who "despitefully use us". In that prayer, he was praying for his own. There are times the Spirit leads us to pray for someone who isn't saved: Other times for someone who is.

To say that God only has a select few that He desires to save is wrong. He desires all to be saved but in his infinite knowledge, he knows those that are his or will be his.

Think of his earthly ministry. He was first sent to his own. Those were the Jews. Salvation was to the Jew first and yet when the Greek woman besought him to cast the demon out of her daughter, he obliged, even though it wasn't yet her time; meaning the time for the non Jew. God answers the pleading heart. The humble heart he will not resist.

One last thing: Look at Mark 3:33-35. What is the will of God? "That you believe on him whom he has sent" See Jn 6:28-29. God's will is that all might believe. Unfortunately, most will not. Still this isn't God's desire.
This is where Brian misses the heart of God. God doesn't want anyone to perish. That doesn't prevent him from knowing who those people are. But by knowing, this doesn't in any way mean He wills their damnation.
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