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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1092)	11/20/1999 12:32:00 PM
From: A.J. Mullen	Read Replies (1) of 12232

Thanks for the correction wrt the name of the malarial mossie. It is the malarial one that is forecast to find Britain habitable under one global change scenario. Co2 has risen in the atmosphere since the industrial rev. Co2 fertilization does increase growth rates which does give some amelioration. A bigger reason that the increase in co2 hasn't been greater is the buffering effect of the oceans - they've absorbed much of the extra co2 put into the atmosphere. Yes, I agree we could abandon all the major cities: London, LA, New York and Tokyo. It just seems simpler to drive more efficient vehicles. Whether or not global change will effect a 10% reduction in economic output is to my mind an open question. Certainly rehousing all the people living within , say 50-100', of the the sea would boost economic activity - in the same way as the Luftewaffe (spp) and the Allies who opposed them boosted building industry in post-war Europe. Yes, warming may indeed trigger an ice-age. Don't you think that would trigger substantial economic effects? Particularly if the onset were quick. The effect of a given release of Co2 on world climate, and the impact on the economy are very difficult technical questions. In a sense, we are like the old joke concerning a man propositioning a woman - the one where the punchline is "at least we've established that all we are arguing about is the price!" We agree that if there should be a cost to releasing Co2. then the releaser should pay. I think we agree, further, that at some point released CO2 will have a cost. Neither of us is sure we already at that point; I think it much more likely than you. There are well defined methods that can be used to assign values to uncertain events. I think we should use them. It could be argued that increased communications are inherrently good for the planet. They don't take much in the way of raw materials, and they much co2 spewing travel unnecessary. Irwin Jacobs for the Green Planet Award. (I know this thread doesn't have a track - but now I excuse myself of the charge that I was off-roading.)

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