RE>>My other question....do you subscribe to the Calvinists view of TULIP?<<
What is that an attempt to change the subject?
T = Total depravityof man in his flesh being capable of no spiritual good in his natural state of death in Adam
U = Unconditional election of those who will be saved . God predestinating them to all the means of Salvation not having to do with anything at all seen or foreseen within those whom the Father hath given to the Son before the world began. Eph 3:11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
L = Limited atonement. That while the death of Christ Jesus is of itself sufficient to save all men even should there be an infinite number of them born into sin and sinning yet God the Father has applied the saving blood of Jesus only to those whom He has purposed to save before the world began. Jesus died judicially for all sins and all men in that God is not to be held to account for having created a sinful world and yet is it limited in it's effect that only the Elect are fully relieved and acquitted of the guilt of their sin.John 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Jesus plainly taught that he laid down His life for the sheep (not for the goats or the whole world). All those whom the Father hath given him shall come to Him and be saved:
I = Irresistible Grace God's power in salvation and recreation is such that the dead and sinful elect person cannot stop His granting of the new heart and new spirit and they will be subdue by either fear or love or a combination of both and by being born-again by the Holy Spirit of God.Psalms 110:3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
P = Perseverance is also a part of the true Gift of Salvation so much so that those who do not continue to the end are recognized by those who are saved as having been false from the start:1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Do I believe in TULIP ?
Ask rather this Do I believe Jesus and the Holy Word contained within the Bible!
All other so-called "Gospels" are false and to be accursed
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
I received the Gift of Faith.. I do not suffer from mere positive thinking as do the false converts.
Yes ,Dan, I believe in the doctrines defined as TULIP |
