Sorry Monu but I would like to take a quick minute to run through this Vessels of Honor/Dishonor.
Paul uses this in three places. First look at Romans 9
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
Verse 24 shows that the vessels of mercy are the saved both of Gentiles and Jews. The elect. Paul says here Vessel of Wrath to glorify God in Judgement. ( Many cannot rejoice in that ) If you are reading Ezek you will see that God is Glorified in Wrath.
Ezekiel expresses God's wrath in the most certain of terms.
God boldly professes to them who thought God would keep them because they are the seed of Abraham that He would show no mercy or pity at all. Women and children alike tortured and killed for the Common and Abominable Idolatry.
So that the vessels of wrath are not lesser persons in heaven but indeed the damned. Yet look at the terms in the verse just before this:
Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
So that:
Honor = Mercy but Dishonor = Wrath
Monu... one thing about the potters industry in those days was this. They made "pots" Before you laugh have you not ever heard the term "I need to go "potty".
Paul is pointing out, in an age where there is no flushing toilets, that there are differing "pots" that the potters make from the same lump of clay. All having purpose.
The potter can make one pot for the bread or the wine before you eat it and quite another "pot" for after you have. Some people are created to be toilets Monu. plain and simple. The wicked are vessels of Wrath and dishonor!
There very mouths and hearts are toilets! Beings without honor:
2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
Their purpose is the same purpose as satans. To do evil and to Glorify God's Grace to the vessels of mercy.
I know I sound like a broken record at times but until men can see this they cannot really see how precious is God's Love to the vessels of Mercy.
==== Those who say God loves everyone call God a Harlot and a lover of evil. ====
I say these things in FULL CONFIDENCE !
Isa 66:5 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.
The very foundation of Faith is to know that GOD Loves with a special love all who are saved... not common love.
2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
Your thinking that it describes different levels of reward is to misunderstand what Jesus taught. Ever heard of 20-20 Vision...Look at this:
Matthew 20:20 Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him.
21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom.
These two disciples get their "mommy" to try and get advantage.
Matthew 20:22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.
Right ... he wants to hear "this answer" ( They knew not - The Cross )
23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
The Lord's supper and Baptism the two true sacraments
Matthew 20:24 And when the ten heard it, they were moved with indignation against the two brethren.
Well... I should hope so ! I would be two...
Matthew 20:25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
You want to see levels in Heaven Monu... I show you those who were beheaded because they loved Jesus:
Rev 4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
They cast ther crowns at the feet of Jesus desiring not to be glorified in His site.
Let me show you even a higher level:
John 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
Monu, I have washed Gregor's feet publicly on this thread.
He, I believe, being no theologian is a lover of God.
I pray you do not let me down in this...
I wash your feet if you will suffer it.. as I believe you are a lover of the Christ and His truth.
I am your servant in Him.
If I do not know the answer I will ask Him and He shall grant it. He giveth not snakes for bread.
I know Him and he does honor me...I pray He crucify your heart! |
