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To: Scott Volmar who wrote (8429)1/6/2000 11:14:00 AM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (2) of 9798
 
Scott, as I said before. I have no reason to doubt the Debianer's claim of stability. I have found no problems with the stability of any Linux distribution. Netscape is the only app that dies on occasion. Not the window manager, not the xserver and not Linux. Also compupic a windows ported to Linux image manipulation app is also very crash prone. They major detriment to Debian is the lack of support for RPM which is a Linux industry standard that happen to have been developed by Redhat in the first release of Redhat distributions. The rufus site I point to, 77 billion bytes of applications, is KISS availabity of applications.

What I have found over several years of use is that I could always find an RPM for any package I wanted to install and it took a rpm -U der_package_name and I now had the package.

On my 1996 pentium pro systems the install takes about 2 seconds on average. Netscape takes 3 seconds.

To me a major value of Linux is the fact that a user can become functional quickly and the increase in the functionality of Linux goes on and on as the user discovers more and more apps. But anything that makes app discovery less likely is a very negative. A large percentage of application developers only create their package distributions in rpm binaries and rpm source. They I believe think like me and wonder at why anyone would want to have a different install. (other than we object to rpm because it was developed by the infidels)

So to me any distribution that goes it's own way in something as important as app installs seems to me to have owner's who are out of touch. Many may not understand that all elements of open source have owner's (self appointed) and not all understand KISS.

Over time darwin tells of what happens to those out of touch and I don't (when I see the writing clearly) bother with fringes. The desktop pics I showed are a desk that I developed 4 to 5 years ago by merging parts of three or four .fvwmrc layouts.
This desk design allow for maxium visability of many open windows on multible screens with minimal loss of desk space.
I can drag and cut and paste from anywhere to anywhere.

But the whole Linux world is doing clunky (kde or gnome.)
Go figure. The entire Linux world thinks we my hide the command line in stead of embracing it as one of the true beauties of Linux. That is the message of KDE and gnome.

Do technically challenged users of computers fear the command line simply because their Bill Gates experience with computer tell them that even with only a few simple inputs from a mouse the world crashes, my God what would happen if I mistyped a command. I digress.

But Scott I'm glad you gave me the link to
debian.org
This is where the childish owner's of the Debian actually join the moral camp of Bill Gates FUD with this declaration.

View the packages in the unstable distributions

What an obsene way of doing business. But based on comments of other contributor on this board, Debian does fit corl's style.

But since my experience with Linux indicates that problems with unstable apps causes no danger to Linux operation, maybe the dwelling of the Debianer's on the unstable is based on their own understanding of some hidden flaws that would be exposed if they allowed unstable apps. hmmm... So that why they have a minister of stability propaganda.

Tom Watson tosiwmee
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