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Pastimes : Ask God

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To: haqihana who wrote (29244)1/19/2000 9:53:00 PM
From: Berry Picker  Read Replies (3) of 39621
 
RE>>Case in point; if one loves God, he will not break any of the Commandments<<

Hawk-eye I think that you have HIT the NAIL on the HEAD !!!

( I am also a carpenter - builder )

Most people who understand the following are hated by all except those who also understand the same

1. By the deeds of the law no man is justified before God because we all sin.

Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

2. Men are elected by God and chosen unto salvation before the world began by God's grace ALONE.

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

3. That true Love a love we can even have toward our enemies is to act according to God Law toward them...

Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

(If my enemies... did not covet me... did not kill me ...never stole from me.... did not lie about me...did not defraud me.... obeyed God and the first 4 commandments I would LOVE that ENEMY even from the heart and it would not be possible for me to justify being anything but his brother.)

4. That there is a HUGE difference between the Ceremonial laws under the Old Covenant and the Perpetual Moral Laws that Jesus said He would never change:

Ceremonial
Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Moral
Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

The creation itself could more easily end than for the Moral Law to ever change... God would have to change.

What does Paul say of the Moral Law:

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

What does Paul say of the Old Covenant Ceremonial Law compared again to the Moral Law:

1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

again:

Romans 2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

In that verse Paul is speaking about those who 'trusted' in the "ceremonial" law of circumcision yet fail at the "moral" law of God !!!
Compared to those who failed at the "ceremonial" law and yet kept the "moral" and said the latter would be justified rather than the first..

How many today believe their faith will save them even if they disregard God's moral law ???

What does James say of that :

James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

We must be "circumcised of heart" concerning God's Eternal Moral Laws. Even as Jesus taught:

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

It is a this point many who believe themselves better than the pharisees and even call me a legalist and a pharisee shall fall into the same pit...

Ceremonial without Moral = Faith without Righteousness

and they become what they accuse me of being...

Paul is very careful to warn us not to be deceived by satan...

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

What is Paul teaching the Corinthian Christians...

Though they may say they have Faith and that Jesus is LOrd if they are Law Breakers without Repentance they will never see heaven...

Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

Many men today believe there are only two kinds of people...

Those who have Grace without Law ( they are deceived into thinking these are the saved )
Those who have Law without Grace ( Self righteous legalists even as many see me )

Hawk-eye... The Bible teaches that those who shall see life have BOTH...

They are saved by God's Grace unto Obedience of His Holy Law.
That is the true Gospel that Paul and the Bible taught...

Paul said of those who teach contrary to that it is they who preach " another gospel " because that is what He taught everywhere he preached.

Luke 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father:

Those men said " we do not need to repent or restore what we have damaged we are saved because of "who" we are in Abraham."

Today men say " we do not need to repent or restore what we have damaged we are saved because of "who" we are in Jesus."

Do you see the same "spirit" of error?

That is not true "faith" from the heart if we are not convicted about sin and God's Holy Laws.

If we have stolen we need to make good again.

What does the Law say:

Thou shalt not steal.....

Have we not stolen???

Yes.. therefore we cannot be justified by that Law. The law condemns us as sinners....

Did Jesus save us from the LAW or from the condemnation of having broken His Holy Law ??

The commandment still stands thou we are forgiven for having stole we are to steal no longer and to repent.

Ephesians 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Forgiven for having stolen and exhorted to not only work but to give instead of stealing...

The LAW still stands as HOLY and GOOD.

Romans 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

The problem Paul teaches is not with the LAW... it is not the LAW that needed to be changed.. it is US who are CARNAL.

The Law ( moral ) is Holy Just and SPIRITUAL the very reflection of God's Moral Character which if we are saved we are professing to LOVE.

No Man can Love God and Hate the TEN COMMANDMENTS...

if they hate the law they hate God Himself..

1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

=== This is the Blessing that I have in Christ ===

1 John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

I seek not to condemn others but to call them to the same blessing... if they are condemned it is because they stand against God's Law and ultimately God Himself....

I cannot help them... they need to repent lest they should hear Jesus say:

Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Iniquity = Lawlessness

RE>>. Any Christian, worth his salt, would agree that love is the basis of all that is important to mankind. Case in point; if one loves God, he will not break any of the Commandments<<

Who have said it rightly Haqi... God Bless your understanding of that truth.
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