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To: Matt Brown who wrote (4870)	1/28/2000 3:15:00 PM
From: Jorjenzak	Read Replies (2) of 5041

We're having fun NOW!! :-) So you are now saying you got your figures on the transaction costs from DLX when you called them? If so, well that is entirely different than just saying the costs are such and such without any basis for making the statement. Come on now....you know that! I'm not speculating on anything....just challenging assertions made by others without any disclosure of anything to back up the assertions. If the statement is now that the assertions are backed up by discussions had with DLX then I can't refute that except by calling myself. Which I plan to do as soon as I have a chance after I do some DD this weekend. I like to have some context for my questions so the answers make sense. You know more about stp than I.......they never told me much so how can I challenge your assertions about them. Its like punching a marshmellow and its a none issue now so I have no reason or interest in engaging in it. All I know about are Bob's history and credentials which impressed me. Beyond that....all I have to go on is one side of the story and what I witnessed in public. hmmmmm.... What are the differences between what DLX will do and what STP agreed to do? What did DLX tell you so that you can make the statement they are not alike at all? What's the basis? I don't know so I'm not gonna speculate. When I have a basis for knowing then I will provide it with the assertions. If I am stating an opinion then I will disclose that as well. That is all. As for Tom lying......you have your opinion on that and I have mine. We know we are not going to persuade one another so why debate a dead issue. I have not spoken with Tom since before he went to Aust. last fall. Up to then he had never lied to me. As far as Tom impersonating people.....I have no direct personal knowledge of any such thing....I have heard a rumor from the folks at STP back many moons ago....but I don't like to make personal attacks or cast aspersions in public of hearsay accusations. It may be true.....it may be false.....but I don't know so I have nothing to add or detract from it. I think it is risky to go out in public and make accusations based on the claims of others, however. Too risky. You seemed to have missed my point about the PR......it is very clear and I take it at face value. It is not and end all sign of inevitable success for ECNC. I never said it was. In fact....all I did was share the fact that a PR was out there from another company about ECNC. Do I like the fact DLX put out that PR....hell yeah! It shows to me that ECNC is not sitting around sucking its collective thumb and wishing stp had not parted ways. Its moving forward towards effecting interenet debit transactions using PIN's. It is dealing with an established successful small cap company. I like that. It looks good to me. That is all. sheesh...... :-)

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