Wally -
Thanks for the link to the archived CPI and PPI data. I guess I learned AGAIN(a lesson learned over about a million times…) that sometimes some data is more confusing than no data…. I only have data at this point for CPI/PPI/FIG thru 1994. I defn don't have a long enough time period to do the data justice. What little I have is fascinating to look at though. It's a pretty simplistic spreadsheet, but if anyone wants it PM me w\ your email addr.
I've always kinda followed the #s because I was told to do so, but never really took a big interest to really understand them until now. I can thank BB for that. A lot of the following may seem extremely obvious!
I will collect more as I go, but I did come away with a few thoughts:
1) The FIG index defn seems to correlate better with PPI than CPI. I would rank the correlation(from best to worst) as core PPI, PPI/CPI, core CPI. FIG index I'm looking at is for the U.S. CPI doesn't track it as well most probably because of global import price pressures, the weaker dollar, etc.(I.e. - producers aren't being allowed to pass on the changes). BTW, I have seen that there is potential that this situation is ending due to the global recovery.
2) Core CPI is VERY VERY impressive! I reckon anyone that bets core CPI will be anything much outside of +2% YTY is gambling big! It's been in a pretty nice steady decline from 3% downto 2% over the last 6 years. Amazing! No wonder everybody is convinced this can last forever.
3) You can defn see the effects of energy in the PPI. Core PPI actually tracks the lagged FIG index pretty closely. If I shift the FIG index "fwd" by 11months, it VERY accurately predicts the fall and turnaround of the core PPI in mid 1997. What little data I have defn shows it is an extremely accurate directional indicator for this.
4) Out of all of these, IMO we will 1st see a true indication of rear view mirror inflation in the core PPI. Looks to me like that could occur in the June or July data. If import prices continue to rise as they have, and esp if the dollar starts to weaken from it's current firming against other currencies… The question that keeps haunting me right now is how long it will take Joe Q DayTrader or Jane Q Market Guru to see it all coming. Am I gonna miss out on a few months worth of NDX gains because I pulled the plug too early?
5) It is extremely obvious in the data that the energy prices are having a significant effect on the std CPI/PPI. I'm gonna ignore those for the time being. A turnaround in the core CPI will be what really scares me.
6) I am going to email ECRI and ask for data further back than 94, but I am open to suggestions on where else to go for it.
7) I'd like to add the FIBER info next, but can't seem to find much historical data, yet.
There is a lot more to all of this than I am using! I'm actually just scratching the surface of the info from BLS that you gave me the link to. Heck, it's probably even more important right now to watch crude and intermediate goods prices(a little earlier in the pipeline) at this point. Those may give us an even earlier indication that the sky really is falling.
The more I look at it, the more I want/need to rely on the resources of places like ECRI, FIBER, etc. It's also nice to have analytical sources such as dismal available. Now that I understand the dynamics a little better it's amazing just how much info can be found out there.
todd |