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To: epicure who wrote (7581)	4/30/1997 8:56:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	of 108807

alexa: >>Most men do not own the value of what they produce in a non-collectivist society. It is in the nature of human beings to be exploitive. Corporations do it, people do it. External forces can be as coercive as any collective, and they can force people to work and to stay at one paricular job. Only someone like Ayn, who obviously was not very in touch with reality, would fail to understand this. I'm not saying there is much redress for the inequality life deals us by accidents of fate, but to worship a system that exploits those accidents is too much.<< If this is true (and it is in many places of the world) then damn the society and the philosophy it lives by, the political structure, the economic structure, the moral structure. In a truly free society where individual rights and property rights are supreme, it is a different story entirely. Don't buy into the collectivist's trap. Men who produce do own the value. If a man works for someone else he has traded his time and expertise for the value offered by the employer. Based on this negotiation he is expected to produce. In fact, he damn well better produce or it's the other side of the door for him! He trades value for value. Or are you saying that the assistants who helped Edison in his quest for the electric light (not to mention his thousands of other patents) should have gotten the same reward he did? Were THEY the motive force? Father Terrence

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