Zeuspaul, if we say that Suzanne would have put up a fight in a car then she'd have put up a greater fight outdoors
I disagree. If you back a wild animal into a corner it will fight. If the animal has an escape route it will likely take it before it fights.
In the car she would have no choice. In the outdoors the most likely opportunity for survival would be to flee.
Therefore, she most likely would have put up a verbal fight before taking any physical action.
She did..they argued. Why would she take physical action if she thought she could escape. Physical action would have favored the stronger party with the weapon.
If we want to shoehorn in the three statements by the witnesses, we'd have to posit that the argument took place at 9:45pm one block south of the crime scene.
Is the location of the found body at the corner of Edgehill Rd and E Rock Rd? Do we know more precisely where the body was found at this intersection?
One block south of this intersection is Huntington and Edgehill RD. This is a short block. I believe you indicated before that the argument was a long block south. Did the argument take place at Huntington and Edgehill Rd?
We'd have to assume the windows were rolled down so that someone could hear them from inside a house.
It was a warm night so that is certainly a likely scenario.
We now have a five minute gap until the five screams were heard a block north (although I don't know for sure the location).
Neither do I. The three events..1. argue 2. scream 3. statement are unclear to me as to time and location and sequence. I believe you could throw one out and change the sequence and still have a plausible scenario.
If we had better details I believe we could develop a more specific scenario.
Well, I suppose we now have a fearful Suzanne exiting the car, probably running away from the scene. As I said before, at this point we have a huge gotcha. One block south in Whitney Ave., a heavily traveled main road that leads to Yale. All Yale students know that road. It makes no sense for someone fleeing a scene to head north into a residential area.
Whitney Ave is not south but EAST of the found body. Was the argument at Whitney and Edgehill? or was the argument south at Huntington and Edgehill? What is the source of this info? Can we clarify which street intersection the argument took place?
If the former, then we have a fearful Suzanne obviously aware of a problem running and screaming with her back to the killer. But, wait, if this is true, how do we fit in the so-called "last words"? Either she is struck from behind totally unaware or she is aware enough to speak loud enough that a passerby heard her. If she's this aware of what's happening then it seems reasonable to me she was aware enough to at least put a hand up in defense and most likely yell bloody murder so to speak
I did not know we had a time and/or location of the last words. What specifics do we have other than the last words? The first and only time I saw them mentioned was in the transcript of 20/20 if my memory serves me..I do not recall any other specifics related to the words.
However the words could have been spoken at either end of the scenario. Perhaps at the beginning wrt to a sexual advance or possibly a threat. Perhaps at the end if she had a knife pointing at her back.
Yet, somehow, we have her screaming, uttering last words, being felled by a single blow in her tracks, no staggering, no momentum, no blood spurting out all over the place from this, by definition, debilitating wound, no grass stains from a fall on her clothes, no grass stains on her face from 17 blows to the head, no marks in the grass from perhaps the knees of the killer, etc., no attempt to turn her over and stab her in the heart, her whole body laying there and fully accessible yet all the wounds are localized, etc. And when all is said and done the neighbors who saw the body couldn't even tell she was dead. They said she looked like she had fainted.
Are these all known facts?? Do we know for sure she had no grass stains? They would have been on the front. Wasn't she lying face down? Did someone turn her over to look?
What was the fatal stab? Was it the first or second? Was it the last? Was it a stab from behind through the neck and into the jugular?
If she were running from the killer she had her back to him. He did not necessarily tackle her. He could have caught up to her..grabbing her left shoulder with his left hand to slow her down..then with his right hand put the knife to her throat...scream and I'll kill you...she would be frozen..then slit the throat...OR the first thrust as he caught up to her could have been a stab through the neck to the jugular causing her to weaken quickly.
It is difficult to refine the detail without more specific evidence...of which I am sure exists. Depth and location of wounds..fatal wound..more specifics on time and location of witnessed sounds.
However I believe the evidence that I am aware of better suits the outdoor event. How do you explain the argument, the screams and the statement in an upscale quiet neighborhood if the murder were committed somewhere else? I can see disregarding one but three is too much to ignore IMO.
Without more solid evidence I only believe the times plus or minus about five minutes. Clocks and people are not that good. Ie 9:45 could be 9:48 and the window between the argument the screams and the murder could get smaller.
BTW..in the kill in car scenario with multiple participants I believe a van would be a more likely vehicle. I agree the position of the body favors a drop off...however there are three pieces of evidence that indicate the participants were outdoors.
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