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Pastimes : Ask God

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To: Jamey who wrote (30024)3/18/2000 5:25:00 PM
From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST  Read Replies (1) of 39621
 
Santiago,

You said, "I have not changed my mind about predestination because it is so prevailing in the Bible."

No one is suggesting that you do change your mind. Otherwise they would be false teachers. Predestination is a definite in the bible. The only issue at hand is it predestination alone that saves.

The bible clearly says salvation is not based on predestination alone, as clearly shown in Ephesians:

Ephesians 1
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Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints in Ephesus, [1] the faithful [2] in Christ Jesus:
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Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.
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For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love
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he [3] predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will--
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to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves.
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In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace
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that he lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding.
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And he [4] made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ,
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to be put into effect when the times will have reached their fulfillment--to bring all things in heaven and on earth together under one head, even Christ.
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In him we were also chosen, [5] having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will,
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in order that we, who were the first to hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory.
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AND YOU ALSO were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit,
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who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession--to the praise of his glory.

Note verse 13. You can try to deny it, but thats what is says. You would be denying God's truth by denying it!

God Bless Us All,
Steve
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