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To: Dan3 who wrote (100774)	3/29/2000 11:18:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) of 1571808

AlibiDan - re: "Are you saying that X-Box will be produced on full depreciated .25 equipment in fully depreciated .25 FABs? (the reported speeds do seem to suggest that)." No - 0.25 micron parts are today obsolete. If Intel uses a 0.18 micron Coppermine or Timna for XBOX production in 2002, that will be the fourth year of 0.18 micron production (1999, 2000, 2001, 2002) so 80% of the equipment will be depreciated by then. More than likely, Intel eventually transition the XBOX CPU to a 0.13 micron process for die size reduction - some time in mid to late 2002. Beyond that, 300 mm wafer production will commence, further contributing to XBOX CPU cost reduction. My estimate is that the XBOX CPU will - in production mode - cost Intel no more that $10 - $15 to produce. Re: "Now, consider that to get Microsoft to shaft AMD in the middle of Intel's big "let's all switch to Linux" campaign, Intel must have offered a very low price - my guess is considerably under $20 - so the estimate that Intel will be shipping a $20 bill with each X-Box CPU sounds about right, and is probably a worthwhile investment for Intel." Microsoft didn't SHAFT AMD - AMD LOST the bid to Intel. Get over it. Intel's costs are lower MUCH LOWER than AMD's. Intel's CPU heat dissipation is LOWER - enabling LOWER COST gaming systems. Intel's CPU is faster - read every friggin' benchmark test that has been published. Intel's SSE extensions are superior to AMD's 3DNOW_DEAD. Paul

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