You are now discussing abortion. I have done that many times. I suspect you do not know my position on abortion.
However, the subject here was not actually the pros and cons of families deciding whether a newly fertilized egg may be aborted from a woman's uterus as opposed to the government taking that decision away from them and using the machinery of the state to force all women in all families to gestate fertilized ova for nine months.
The subject under discussion was whether the characterization of "conservatives" as those who oppose "government intrusions into everyday life" was accurate.
It is not. That is a self-serving myth. As Steven said, they want to use government to push their own, special, pet, "good ideas" down everyone's throats, just as liberals do.
Do you think liberals don't feel just as sanctimonious and righteous about their pet government intrusions as you do about this one? Liberals who forced children onto buses at the crack of dawn in order to transport them to schools in distant neighborhoods (because they knew in their hearts that it was the moral thing to do) felt every bit as smug and sanctimonious and positive that that was an appropriate use of the power of the state as you do in this moment of advocating government intrusion at the moment of fertilization.
You're both, liberals and conservatives, a bunch of creepy ideologues, imo, who want to force your own ideas down everyone's throats using, if you can get hold of it, the power of the state to do so.
It is very annoying when conservatives claim otherwise.
Conservatives advocate intrusion to force whatever they want to on government's unwilling subjects. Conservatives advocate extreme measures of state intrusion, even unto standing between a woman and her doctor, even unto forcing women against their wills to gestate fertilized ova until they become infants.
That is the bottom line. Intrusion.
You talk about "those women's rights" with an unmistakable sneer. How interesting; those women are citizens.
You justify your advocacy of this most intimate, deep intrusion with irrelevancies like "Over 90 percent of women seeking abortions are doing so as a contraceptive measure."
I say, "Tell those women what you think. Change their minds, and their behaviors, and their partners', and families', if you want to, and can." You say, "As soon as we have the power, let's get the government to force them to toe the line suggested by our philosophies and/or religions!"
Your sarcastic, sneering "Lord forbid they should have to spend twenty years raising a kid just because they could not have kept their panties pulled up......" perfectly captures for me the smug spirit of the simplistic conservative stance toward this profound social, philosophical and moral issue.
I personally think twenty years of gestating and "raising a kid" on the order of the government because people like you think you shouldn't have pulled your panties down if you didn't want a baby is too harsh a state-order punishment for migrating panties. Even though the contemplation of this particular governmental intrusion affords you such obvious satisfaction.
Conservatives in government are smug, sanctimonious and intrusive bullies every bit as much as liberals are; and, in some cases, I've noticed, more. |
