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Microcap & Penny Stocks : HDST Headstrong Group Inc
HDST 0.00Dec 20 4:00 PM EST

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To: Everette Albarez who wrote ()5/9/1997 6:53:00 PM
From: Mike Mansour   of 389
 
5-8-97 and 5-9-97 AOL discussions. Again I don't know these people but thought I'd post the info they sent me. Evaluate it as you see fit. Again I do not own any HDST shares.
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5-8-97
Here is a recap of the current discussion we had this a.m. about the stock price drop.

You have just entered room "hdst discussion" EALBAREZ: what up bren
THE Bren: not the stock price
THE Bren: Have you had a chance to talk to JCooper this am? EALBAREZ: no just got on
THE Bren: Let me see if I can find him online EALBAREZ: Anything going on
THE Bren: Just sent him an IM
THE Bren: Looks like someone has gotten 12 million shares and is going to THE Bren: have a controlling interest in the company
THE Bren: I think this is a good thing EALBAREZ: how did you find this out
THE Bren: JCooper is coming
EALBAREZ: price down any reason
JCooper224: Have you guys heard anything about this selling? THE Bren: I think someone is manipulating
JCooper224: Its down to .13 on the bid. THE Bren: getting the small fry's out
RAVENNADOG: hey guys . . . what is happening ???
JCooper224: Meyers told me yesterday that it would probably sink short term, but that we had a few days.
RAVENNADOG: have we got negative news coming ?? JCooper224: He was wrong.
JCooper224: Earnings
RAVENNADOG: how low do you think we will go ?? THE Bren: don't know
JCooper224: He hinted strongly that year end would be negative. RAVENNADOG: what about the europe thing ??
RAVENNADOG: man . . . this really hurts !!
JCooper224: It is coming. He thought would be used to offset the earnings news.
THE Bren: I agree
RAVENNADOG: how long before we hear ??? any idea ??
THE Bren: I wish they would have posted the problem a while ago and just gotten it over with
JCooper224: someone dropped 100,000 shares at the open. was sold off in pieces.
JCooper224: Did anyone see the latest volume. THE Bren: 325,400
JCooper224: Was it big blocks.
THE Bren: no
THE Bren: 50000 here
THE Bren: 25000 there
THE Bren: then buys
THE Bren: then sells
THE Bren: buying and selling
JCooper224: They sell them in pieces.
EALBAREZ: bren what this 12 million share owner THE Bren: ask JCooper
THE Bren: got the information from him THE Bren: 5/8/97 /12:19 PMest
JCooper224: Meyers told me that someone had accumulated 12 mil shares and would have to file with the
JCooper224: SEC
THE Bren: I wonder if it is a person or a company
JCooper224: They want to lock up 20 mil by getting other investors to agree not to sell for a specified
JCooper224: time.
RAVENNADOG: jcooper . . . what is the purpose of that ?
JCooper224: This in effect takes half the stock off the market for a while RAVENNADOG: is that a good thing or a bad thing >??? seems positive
THE Bren: I think it is positive
JCooper224: He said some would not want to hold and dump.
RAVENNADOG: i guess i dont understand this whole thing . . . then this is a buying opportunity ??
JCooper224: I'm not sure.
JCooper224: To be honest with you, I don't know what to believe.
THE Bren: I can't help but feel that someone is creating a buying opp artificially
RAVENNADOG: i am not sure of anything about this stock anymore
JCooper224: Shortvat1 told me that CFO had just told him that there was no one who owned that much stock
JCooper224: That was two weeks ago.
THE Bren: what is the lowest this stock has gotten to? JCooper224: .10 on the bid.
THE Bren: when was this?
RAVENNADOG: today ?? ten cents ??
JCooper224: no.
JCooper224: .13 today.
JCooper224: .10 back when two big PP hit the market early this year. RAVENNADOG: well . . . i guess i just hold on and see . . . .and just after i lost my
RAVENNADOG: butt on tacn . . . here we go again . . . i got to do something else
RAVENNADOG: this is too nerve racking . . . THE Bren: Tacn didn't have any revenue
THE Bren: this co is much different
THE Bren: I have actually seen the products on peoples heads RAVENNADOG: volume is still at 325K
THE Bren: yes
JCooper224: It is not mass selling. It is a couple of people moving large amounts.
RAVENNADOG: yesterday at the closing bell there was buying . . .cant figure it
THE Bren: that is why I feel that it is artificially creating the market THE Bren: I mean Moving the market
THE Bren: the bleeding has stopped for a few minutes at least THE Bren: 5/8/97 12:28 PM est

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5-9-97
Latest discussion on Hdst. please let me know if you want me to take you off of this list. John Freeman

You have just entered room "hdst discussion" JMcc405: Looks like we are early to the party. THE Bren: guess so
THE Bren: moved up a little this a.m.
JMcc405: saw that. wish it would continue. cooper has some interesting info to share with us.
THE Bren: did you talk to him today or yesterday?
THE Bren: I tried to call Porter Levay and Rose to get some information today but Jeff Okeef was out.
THE Bren: Left a message with him
THE Bren: So unfortunately I don't have really that much new information to share today
THE Bren: waiting for JCooper
JMcc405: spoke with him just before lunch. THE Bren: be interested in what he has to say BSERSKINE: Afternoon everyone!
JMcc405: I have been all over edgars looking for new info and found nothing. THE Bren: Howday
JMcc405: hello.
THE Bren: last trade was at .1875
THE Bren: at least the ask is at .20 JMcc405: yes.
BSERSKINE: I'm trying to log this but don't know if it will work THE Bren: I'll keep a record of it as much as possible
THE Bren: too
BSERSKINE: Edgar has nothing..even called SEC THE Bren: Hmmm
BSERSKINE: Think they have 10 days to file JMcc405: Is it 10 or 30?
THE Bren: JCooper seemed to mention 30 BSERSKINE: Talked with broker for 1/2 hour BSERSKINE: Sorry I thought it was 10
JMcc405: talking about ownership of over 5% filing? THE Bren: about Headstrong?
BSERSKINE: yes
JMcc405: I am not certain of the time allowed. THE Bren: well Jcooper calls us here and is late
BSERSKINE: seems to think it was buy from private placement THE Bren: 5/9/97
THE Bren: 3:05 PM
JMcc405: EST
BSERSKINE: only 2,358,000 volume in last 2 weeks
JCooper224: I am on this old computer I had to bring in. Driving a Pinto on the information
JCooper224: superhighway
JMcc405: I seem to remember when it did that much in 2 days. JMcc405: Just watch out for your gas tank.
BSERSKINE: Needless to say..NO merger
BSERSKINE: New co is supposed to be turnaround specialist JMcc405: Hope so
BSERSKINE: they own drug co, sheet metal co & 2nd largest sporting goods BSERSKINE: company in Europe
BSERSKINE: Huge co w/ 60,000 sales reps
JMcc405: Is the 15th of May the deadline for filing on 1qtr earnings? BSERSKINE: they own 12 mil want 19 mil
THE Bren: Is that what some of this Europe deal is about?
JCooper224: You sure got more info from them than I did. They acted like they couldn't tell me much.
BSERSKINE: qtr earnings are sh-t!
BSERSKINE: yes
JMcc405: is that 4th or 1st?
JMcc405: or both?
THE Bren: 1st quarter?
BSERSKINE: both
THE Bren: oouch
JMcc405: ditto
BSERSKINE: the mgt of HDST is going to lose voting power JMcc405: that would probably be good.
THE Bren: is this news from your broker?
BSERSKINE: they are trying to get a 4mil order from Carafour in France BSERSKINE: yes
THE Bren: Meyers?
JMcc405: was discussing with Jcooper earlier that if this co gains share control they
BSERSKINE: dont have contract yet
BSERSKINE: yes
JMcc405: could change all way down to officers in the hdst BSERSKINE: no officers stay but wont make a lot of dec BSERSKINE: officers cant sell stock for 1 year
THE Bren: J stein I have a log of earlier conversation will mail it to you BSERSKINE: nothing is a "done" deal, but what do we have to lose now JCooper224: Do you think they was something wrong with their books last year.
They were showing profit.
THE Bren: this is definately a mixed bag
JCooper224: Then accounting firm abruptly drops them. BSERSKINE: supposedly they have huge orders & no $ to fill BSERSKINE: hence the new guys
JMcc405: the 10-k form said there was no disagreement in acct procedures or JMcc405: statements themselves
THE Bren: Orendenker said that they had enough cash to continue mfng BSERSKINE: earnings will be out in 2-3 days
JMcc405: are these guys taking it out in salaries?
BSERSKINE: broker thinks it wont drop much, most went yesterday BSERSKINE: said if "done deal, will probably be announced ASAP BSERSKINE: mgt losing 1.7 mil voting shares
JMcc405: where did you find that info? BSERSKINE: scary they dont want to borrow $ BSERSKINE: broker @ Meyers
THE Bren: who is "management" composed of? JMcc405: don't want to borrow, or can't?
BSERSKINE: says he cant sell anymore..too much inside info BSERSKINE: Bren whos mgt]
THE Bren: hdst management
BSERSKINE: dont know but I cant say they are real sharp THE Bren: like I said earlier, definately a mixed bag
BSERSKINE: either this is a heck of a Bre X or were gonna make serious $ BSERSKINE: any thoughts
THE Bren: not sure what is going to happen THE Bren: Is Meyers Bullish on the Company?. BSERSKINE: broker cant give me a time frame BSERSKINE: yes Bren
BSERSKINE: supposed to have someone on HDST's board
JSteinb432: THIS FROM THE SOURCE I WENT DOWN YESTERDAY TO HDST TO PLEDGE MY STOCKS TO THE NEW GROUP , IN
BSERSKINE: JStein ????
THE Bren: continue
BSERSKINE: broker says it will be done by end of June THE Bren: JStein?...
BSERSKINE: heard that one before..but something tells me he wouldnt BSERSKINE: jerk my chain
BSERSKINE: if so I'm dumber than I thought
THE Bren: Friedman is supposed to get back on the 12th JCooper224: Did he give you a target price?
BSERSKINE: was it u JCooper who said something about a lawsuit?? BSERSKINE: target price still .65 - .90
JCooper224: Yes. A friend of mine is ready to sue Meyers. BSERSKINE: says $3 IN A YEAR
JSteinb432: IN ORDER FOR THEM TO TAKE OVER CONTROL THEY MUST 60 PERCENT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS WILL HAPPEN B
BSERSKINE: IF WHAT iM HEARING IS ACCURATE
THE Bren: last trade .20 cents. dont looks like a small blok BSERSKINE: sorry..caps
BSERSKINE: was a small block?
THE Bren: vol. 98800
JCooper224: 100 shares.
JSteinb432: BECAUSE ALL THE BIG BLOCKS OF ST OCKS HAVE BEEN PLEDGED BSERSKINE: we could all have made bank putting our $ elsewhere JCooper224: My friend has 350,000 and hasn't pledged
BSERSKINE: Look at LAAQ or is it another HDST BSERSKINE: i think the 12 mil is private placement
JMcc405: even with a private placement, don't they still have to file with sec?
BSERSKINE: brokers pretty hush hush on stock now BSERSKINE: yes
JCooper224: JStein, did you pledge your shares? What was the deal? BSERSKINE: Ive got a big chunk but im getting antsy
JMcc405: Bserksine, is your target price info from Meyers? BSERSKINE: yes JM
BSERSKINE: Id be happy with .70
JMcc405: amen
BSERSKINE: if it happens Ill buy more on profit taking BSERSKINE: anything on reverse split or buy back BSERSKINE: u guys were the 1st Id heard of it
JMcc405: has all the news on a potential merger simply died? BSERSKINE: yes JM...makes you wonder if it was legit
JMcc405: nothing on reverse other than what has previously been said. BSERSKINE: there is NO merger
THE Bren: wonder if this change of command was mistaken for a merger earlier back
BSERSKINE: Supposedly this new co owns 2nd largest sporting goods co in Europe
JSteinb432: THE EARNINGS WILL HAVE BE RESTATED BECAUSE OF GOODS WERE PUT IN SALES WHICH WERE LATER CANCE
BSERSKINE: want HDST to expand distribution there & Asia BSERSKINE: dont think so Bren
BSERSKINE: all I ever heard from Meyers was merger merger BSERSKINE: That started in Dec
JMcc405: that's when I heard it.
BSERSKINE: I've called brojker to sell many times..each time has talked me out of it.
JMcc405: Is there anything we can do to help this co drive price up? JSteinb432: AND NEVER SHIPPED AND THATS WHAT KILLED THE EARNINGS BSERSKINE: He even flew down to Atlanta to meet my Mom about her portfolio JMcc405: your broker?
BSERSKINE: Nothing I know of JM
BSERSKINE: yes
BSERSKINE: thats why I dont think hes pullin one on me..too much for him to lose
JSteinb432: THE YEAR END WILL BE A BAD BAD BAD THE STOCK WILL PROBALY TAKE A HIT
BSERSKINE: think some of it went yesterday??
JCooper224: JStein, do you talk to the company or through a broker? JMcc405: Jstein, I expect it will drop some on earnings, but hope yesterday took some out of it.
THE Bren: did this happen in the 1st quarter of the year?
BSERSKINE: If anyone talks to the co, think u get the standard rhetoric? THE Bren: the canceled orders that is.
JMcc405: yes
BSERSKINE: someone there has to be accountable!!
JMcc405: the few times I have called, they have been very short with me. BSERSKINE: If they were so back logged with orders and you owned a co, wouldnt you get your order fille
THE Bren: 5/9/97 3:41 PM est
BSERSKINE: filled somewhere else??
JMcc405: When I call about earnings, the basic response is "we don't know when"
JMcc405: yes, Bserkine.
JSteinb432: THE NEW COMPANY HAS 450 MILLION IN SALES I HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY IN C ONTACT WITH THE HEAD OF T
BSERSKINE: I dont know I buy this huge back order stuff BSERSKINE: JS ???? dont understand
JMcc405: One concern I have is they apparantly raise operating capital through stock placement and
BSERSKINE: Evidently this "new co" is HUGE
JMcc405: not through a loan. Not good for shareholders to dilute. BSERSKINE: JStein dont understand your last statement
BSERSKINE: JM I agree
BSERSKINE: Any more thoughts guys...or is it wait & see
JMcc405: canceled sales orders would affect ability to borrow through conventional means.
BSERSKINE: yes
THE Bren: well someone just bought 10000 shares and the bid went down JCooper224: I would like to hear more from JStein. Who are his sources. JSteinb432: THE NEW COMPANY THEY WILL IMMEDIATY GET A CREDIT LINE WITH THEIR BANKS N MORE FACTORS AT
THE Bren: I mean ask
BSERSKINE: i hear new co has the $..dont need to borrow THE Bren: wait and see
JCooper224: Somebody must have put in a sell order. BSERSKINE: how many stock placements have been done?? BSERSKINE: rt please
THE Bren: 17 x 19 147800 vol
THE Bren: last 18
THE Bren: dont know how big
JCooper224: JStein, your statements get cut off and I don't understand them all.
JMcc405: tension breaker, simon and garfarckle's "feelin groovy" is playing on my radio.
BSERSKINE: low volume..think all interest is gone since the days of .30 - .40's
JSteinb432: HIGH AND GIVE A CAPITAL INFUSION THEY WILL ALSO OPEN ASIA EUROPE MARKETS THEY WILL USE HDST
BSERSKINE: is that from your broker??
THE Bren: J stein are you saying this is a buying op? THE Bren: at these levels?
BSERSKINE: JStein...do u know something we dont???? JMcc405: That's what I am wondering?
RAVENNADOG: hi guys . . . what is the latest . . . sorry i am late ! JCooper224: Tell us more JStein? Where is this coming from. JMcc405: welcome
THE Bren: Ill mail you the last 45 minutes
RAVENNADOG: thanks john . . . you are a good friend ! JSteinb432: SALES ORGANIZATION T MARKET SNOWBOARDS AND SKIWEAR BSERSKINE: JStein...hellooooooo!
JMcc405: Jstein, where is your info coming from?
BSERSKINE: what is your position in HDST, if you dont mind me asking? RAVENNADOG: what are the nuts and bolts of jsteins info ?
BSERSKINE: please dont tell me your a broker BSERSKINE: cant tell Rav
JMcc405: not sure Rav.
BSERSKINE: but I wish he'd say more...a lot more BSERSKINE: calling JStein
JCooper224: tell us more.
BSERSKINE: I've already got wayyyyy too much riding on this JCooper224: me too.
RAVENNADOG: bser . . . join the club JMcc405: there already
JSteinb432: THIS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM ONE OF THE PRINCIPALS THIS IS A PERFECT MATCH FOR US ALL THE NEED I
BSERSKINE: sad isnt it
RAVENNADOG: me threeeeeeeee
JMcc405: what is he talking about?
JSteinb432: IS MONEY
BSERSKINE: cant understand JSTEIN!!!!!!! THE Bren: get your email RAV?
JCooper224: JStein has talked with the company that is buying in. JCooper224: If I understand him.
RAVENNADOG: thanks bren !
BSERSKINE: from what I gather its more than a $450 million $ company RAVENNADOG: is this the 20 million shares company
BSERSKINE: yes
THE Bren: just type yes if this is right
JMcc405: JStein, can you please tell us where you are getting this info? JCooper224: JStein, some of us have been hyped this stock by H.J. Meyers. If you have info from another
BSERSKINE: JStein...HELP I'm sure everyone here is gambling their as- on this stock
JCooper224: source, we would appreciate knowing who. BSERSKINE: and leveraged up the wazoooooo!
JMcc405: you bet, no pun intended Bserskine BSERSKINE: ?????
JSteinb432: THE NEW COMPANY IS A PRIVATE COMPANY IAM NOT A BROKER JCooper224: Is your info from a broker?
JCooper224: I have a real distrust for them at the moment? It would be nice to hear info from somewhere
JCooper224: else.
BSERSKINE: I know they're private, but BIG BSERSKINE: ditto JCooper
JCooper224: BSERSKINE, did you hear that someone from Meyers would be on the board of HDST?
BSERSKINE: They are supposed to be right now
JCooper224: That is what I was told, but I can't find any company documents filed with SEC that show it.
BSERSKINE: That's why this crap & hush hush has gone on toooooo long BSERSKINE: JStein we dont know you so please share something more than that with us
JMcc405: have we missed the annual shareholders meeting for hdst this year? JSteinb432: MY INFORMATION COMES DIRECTLY FROM MY MEETING YESTERDAY WITH JERRY AT HDST AND DIRECT PHONE
JCooper224: Now that is what I like to hear. JMcc405: AGREED
JMcc405: thankyou, JStein
JSteinb432: CALL WITH THE NEW GROUP
JCooper224: You must hold a good bit of stock, JStein BSERSKINE: are they a $450 million $ company? RAVENNADOG: stock closed at eighteen cents
JCooper224: Shareholders meeting was last Oct. Thats where they authorized the 40 mil shares.
BSERSKINE: Can you expound a little more on the messages above that we didnt understand?
BSERSKINE: JStein...BIG QUESTION..are you holding & for how long??? RAVENNADOG: bren, i have to fly . . . would appreciate email of further disc. thanks i really appreciate
JCooper224: I think he pledged his shares. JMcc405: bye Rav.
JSteinb432: I HAVE A LARGE POSITION IN HDST WHICH I STARTED ACCUMULAING IN JAN
THE Bren: Okay guys I have to go. I think we got a lot of interesting information here and I will get
THE Bren: send you all a copy
JMcc405: thanks
THE Bren: as well as QTsuz and anyone else BSERSKINE: Are yiou holding & for how long.
THE Bren: If you have anyone you want me to add to my email list that you think would be interested in
THE Bren: this, please give it to me
BSERSKINE: I'm not interested in accumulating more, I just need a reason to HANG ON!!!
BSERSKINE: Please dont bait us.
JSteinb432: WHEN I PLEDGED MY STOCK I ALSO HAD TO SIGN A PAPER NOT TO SELL MY STOCK FOR A YEAR
BSERSKINE: I realize its my own fault my butts in a sling, but this was a "done deal"
BSERSKINE: four months ago...how much longer!!
JCooper224: I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard that phrase. I wouldn't need this stock.
BSERSKINE: how close to mgt are you??
JCooper224: Are they calling in large investors to plege their stock? JSteinb432: THAT HOW IMPORTANT I THINK THIS DEAL IS
BSERSKINE: JStein HELLO
BSERSKINE: important is great...but when??
BSERSKINE: I am a strong believer this is a good co, but if its six months down the line I have to take
BSERSKINE: my $25,000 loss & go on.
JCooper224: JStein, what have you been promised that would make you pledge your stock?
JSteinb432: THIS IS NOT SHORT TERM DEAL BECAUSE IF THIS DEAL GOES THRU THE REWARDS WILL WILL BE GREAT
BSERSKINE: Why the side-stepping here? Nothing said here is going to hurt you.
BSERSKINE: That's great, but most of us are in because of the short term pretense the brokers gave us.
JMcc405: I thought this would be a 12 - 15 week play
BSERSKINE: If its a 6 - 12 month deal, I can live with that. I just have to reduce my position.
BSERSKINE: I am tired of being lied to.
BSERSKINE: Can you give us the "hint" of a time frame please. JSteinb432: YES THEY ARECALLING INVESTORS WITH OVER 150,000 SHARES BSERSKINE: That's not accurate, because I own more than that.
THE Bren: Guess they havent gotten to the B's yet in their phone list JCooper224: I know someone with over 300,000 hasn't been called. BSERSKINE: You must not have your as- leveraged on this deal, huh? JSteinb432: I THINK THEDEAL HAS DONE BY THE END OF MAY OR IT WONT FLY BSERSKINE: JStein I want to believe your information sir, but I need more than that.
BSERSKINE: The % chance it will be a "done deal"?
BSERSKINE: If not, the rest of us are hanging on to a .02 stock BSERSKINE: Could have kissed away $50,000 and had a lot more fun. JSteinb432: IF YOU NOT BEEN CALL JERRY AT HDST REMEMBER THE BROKERS DONT WHICH IS END IS UP
JCooper224: you got that right.
BSERSKINE: Evidently mine has enough info he cant trade the stock anymore. JMcc405: the question I have is how can someone other than the corp. secretary look through the share
JMcc405: holders books to know who owns what? JMcc405: or other officer of hdst
JCooper224: Somehow Meyers found that I had some through another broker. BSERSKINE: If I call Jerry, will I get what I want to know?
JCooper224: I want to know what is in it for the investor to lock up his shares for a year.
BSERSKINE: short of insider trading? JCooper224: What incentive is there? BSERSKINE: JC hopefully buying at a discount
JCooper224: Well, they are just asking you to agree not to sell for a year.
They are not offering any
JCooper224: more stock.
BSERSKINE: JStein why so "round the bush"? BSERSKINE: Will Jerry answer my questions???
BSERSKINE: Hell, I've got more to do than ask a question and not receive the courtesy of an answer. I'm
BSERSKINE: not a dog waiting to be thrown a bone. JCooper224: I think he is trying, but something is wrong. BSERSKINE: JC what makes you think so?
JCooper224: Just looking at the answers and the caps. I get the feeling he is not very good with the
JCooper224: keyboard or the computer.
BSERSKINE: If that is the case, I'm sorry...hope so. BSERSKINE: Can you guys tell I'm overly frustrated with HDST? JCooper224: A little. Take a deep breath.
BSERSKINE: Gheeeeeez
JCooper224: Hey Bren, when you E-mail the conversation send a copy to Benson5, would you?
JSteinb432: you got that right my typing is the worst . any other question BSERSKINE: I hope he's busy (in HDST's offices) hehehehe
THE Bren: will do working on a mailing list right now JCooper224: JStein, what did they offer you to do this? BSERSKINE: Any comments guys??
THE Bren: None here. lots to digest
THE Bren: 5/9/97
THE Bren: 4:40 PM
THE Bren: we have been here an hour and a half THE Bren: i think we should continue on monday
JCooper224: My first thought, do I sell before the fall on the numbers and buy back?
JCooper224: Or is the fall over?
THE Bren: thats a good question
BSERSKINE: JC too risky. Look what would of happened yesterday. JCooper224: Probably right.
JCooper224: My luck it would run right past me. BSERSKINE: Sell at .14 and back in at .17 - .20 BSERSKINE: It's tempting
THE Bren: sending mail out now

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5-9-97 Part II
let me know if you did not get the first part of this discussion

BSERSKINE: JC too risky. Look what would of happened yesterday. JCooper224: Probably right.
JCooper224: My luck it would run right past me. BSERSKINE: Sell at .14 and back in at .17 - .20 BSERSKINE: It's tempting
THE Bren: sending mail out now
BSERSKINE: JStein is that it fore the discussion, sir??
JSteinb432: get this straight I have watched your postings and I just recieved the info on thursday
JCooper224: I am glad to at least hear somebody who gets info from another source.
JCooper224: My friend has a little complaint with the company. He bought private placement and
JCooper224: converted it when it was up in the 50 to 60 cent range sometime ago.
JCooper224: They never authorized the shares so he could sell them. BSERSKINE: I know they came back from Europe early, but can you offer us any other advice?
JCooper224: Now he gave them an ultimatum.
JCooper224: Give me my money back or give me conversion at today's price or I am going to the SEC
JCooper224: They said give us until next week and I think you will be more satisfied with the outcome.
JCooper224: As if something was going to happen next week.
BSERSKINE: JStein we all want to believe in HDST, but you need to understand we have been yanked by a
JSteinb432: i decided to share do what you want with the information.at least I tried to investigate I
BSERSKINE: leash on this one
BSERSKINE: I've tried too, but you run into a wall at the company's office. THE Bren: we understand. Thanks JStein. you have offered a glimmer of hope at least
BSERSKINE: don't think for a minute we are all "blind" investors here JSteinb432: besides all the bull that from the brokers I think this will turnout very well
BSERSKINE: I appreciate your insight, but most of it I've heard. Remember, we have heard a lot before.
JCooper224: A lot that never transpired. BSERSKINE: Bren Thank you for e-mailing this out. JCooper224: yes, thanks.
THE Bren: waiting for you all to stop yapping so that i can get the rest out JCooper224: yap yap
BSERSKINE: JStein we all want it to turn around THE Bren: can we call it a weekend?
BSERSKINE: Thank you sir for your information...we will pass it to other FRUSTRATERS!
BSERSKINE: Good weekend everyone!
JCooper224: weekend
JSteinb432: thanks and good evening
JCooper224: stay in touch.

5/9/97 /4:57 PM
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