Here is an interesting interview with Bruce Bartlett, senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis and former deputy assistant secretary of the Treasury under the Reagan and Bush administrations. He pretty much says what I had suggested:
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Why the Fed shouldn't raise rates Former Treasury official thinks Fed's too aggressive
By Deborah Adamson, CBS MarketWatch Last Update: 11:14 AM ET May 10, 2000 Commentary Join the discussion
DALLAS (CBS.MW) -- Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan and his predecessor Paul Volcker are largely credited with helping to usher in the U.S.'s current era of prosperity.
While they've restored the Fed's reputation as an inflation fighter after the disastrous policies of the '70s, there are people who think the Fed's current rate-raising stance is too aggressive because inflation is already under control.
One of these people is Bruce Bartlett, senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis and former deputy assistant secretary of the Treasury under the Reagan and Bush administrations.
Bartlett disagrees with the Fed's strategy to raise interest rates now because he believes the Fed doesn't have good reason to do so. He thinks that if the Fed goes too far, it could trigger an unnecessary recession and topple the stock market.
CBS.MarketWatch.com chatted with Bartlett about his take on Fed tightening and why it may carry more risks than rewards for the economy.
CBSMW: In several of your writings, you're disagreed with what you see as the Fed's targeting of a highly valued stock market. Why?
Bartlett: There's something called the "wealth effect." When the stock market goes up, people have more wealth and they go out and spend. This increases consumption, which increases pressure on prices.
The rising stock market causes inflation in some sense. I think the data don't necessarily agree with that. People are inclined to invest more when the stock market goes up than they are to spend. So I think the Fed is worried about something that doesn't really seem to be the case.
CBSMW: What other factors does the Fed consider?
Bartlett: The thing they are targeting more than anything else is wages. The Fed has a model of inflation primarily driven by wages. When the unemployment rate goes down, this allows workers to get higher wages, which leads to higher prices. Some people call this the Phillips Curve. There have been many studies done on the Phillips Curve that show there really is no stable relationship between wages and prices.
I think the Fed is underestimating productivity because I think that's critical to one's analysis. If wages go up 10 percent and productivity goes up 10 percent, then real wages haven't gone up at all. I think we're seeing more rapid growth both in the economy as a whole and in productivity, as a consequence of computers -- and I think wages are well-behaved.
I think the Fed (today) is fighting the last war (of inflation in the '70s). They're concerned about a problem for which there is no evidence.
CBSMW: What about rising oil prices?
Bartlett: A cartel (like OPEC) is contrary to market forces and pushes up price for a time. But history shows these things don't hold and I think it would be a mistake to base monetary policy on what some cartel in the Middle East is doing.
You need to look at the underlying trend of inflation and there are a number of forward-looking indicators, such as the price of gold or commodities in general. If you look at those prices, there really is no evidence of an upward (inflation) trend.
CBSMW: How is the price of gold an indicator?
Bartlett: History has shown that certain indicators are fairly accurate indicators of future price trends. Things such as wages and the consumer price index are backward looking -- they're looking at prices that increased in the past and they don't give you information about what might happen in the future. Gold has historically been an inflation hedge. Investors who are most concerned about inflation tend to move into things like gold when they fear future inflation.
There are other indicators, such as the spread between long-term and short-term rates. Long-term interest rates embody inflationary expectations. If the long-term rate is lower than the short-term rate, that's a pretty strong indicator that there is no inflation expectation among those people who make their living trying to profit by figuring these things out.
CBSMW: You have said that by actively intervening to bring the stock market "bubble" under control, the Fed took actions that impacted the economy as a whole, with disastrous consequences. Explain.
Bartlett: If you raise interest rates, you raise interest rates throughout the entire economy. If they push hard enough, it can cause a recession. There are no signs of that yet, but the economy is very elastic like a rubber band. You can pull it for a pretty long time before it reaches a point at which it snaps and that's my fear.
I hope it doesn't happen. I don't have expectations that it will happen. But I do believe that if the Fed remains on the course that it's on, that is what will happen eventually.
CBSMW: You mentioned that a classic case of the Fed exacerbating, or even causing, a market crash was 1929. Do you see a similar situation happening today?
Bartlett: There is a danger that the Fed might tighten too much and cause a recession. But I certainly don't think that they will make the same mistakes as in 1929, which turned a temporary downturn in the market into something that lasted much longer.
For one thing, I think the Fed is more sophisticated now and when they make mistakes, they recognize them more quickly and reverse them. I'm not worried about the Fed creating another Great Depression. But I am worried about them creating an unnecessary recession when they're concerned about problems that really don't exist.
CBSMW: Do you think the Fed is acting incorrectly by raising rates now?
Bartlett: Yes. I don't think there's any justification for them to raise rates. But I do agree with most economists that they will in fact continue to do so for at least the near term. My hope is that the Fed will look at the significant change in the stock market where we've seen a big downturn in the Nasdaq and say, "maybe we've dissipated enough wealth in the economy that this is not going to lead to excessive buying by consumers."
CBSMW: But couldn't one credit the Fed, first under Volcker and then Greenspan, for ushering in this era of economic expansion?
Bartlett: I don't deny they deserve a great deal of credit. But you have to realize that the good work that Volcker and Greenspan did was to really compensate for the bad work their predecessors did. In the '70s, they simply had too much money chasing too few goods.
Volcker and Greenspan did a great deal to restore the credibility of the Fed as an inflation fighter and they do deserve a lot of credit because inflation is insidious. It's very, very bad for the economy. (But) there's a time when you should declare victory and not keep fighting the inflation of the '70s.
CBSMW: You've said that as long as the Fed keeps tightening, investors haven't seen the bottom of the market. When do you think the Fed will switch gears?
Bartlett: I wish I knew that. Certainly, if they see meaningful signs of a slowdown in the economy -- that is, slower GDP growth, higher unemployment and if they see a sustained bear market, that will certainly have an impact.
Historically, they've tended to react to crises. In the 1980s, they stopped tightening when the banking sector started to look bad with the collapse of Continental Illinois. More recently, they stopped tightening two years ago in reaction to the Asian financial crises. It might take something of that magnitude.
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