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To: steve harris who wrote (115548)	6/12/2000 9:37:00 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (2) of 1577131

Anand's report from Computex: anandtech.com Yet another indication that the curse of Via is going to continue: A couple of points of interest we discovered about Socket-A motherboards and the Athlon platform in general: Motherboard manufacturers are having a very difficult time getting the Thunderbird/Duron platforms to run on 145W power supplies which is what is necessary for FlexATX cases (think of really small microATX). There is no official word from AMD on what can be done to put Thunderbird/Duron in a FlexATX system with a 145W power supply but one company we talked to mentioned that the workaround would be quite "interesting" to say the least. Getting Socket-A motherboards to work at 1GHz and above is quite tricky according to the motherboard manufacturers we spoke with. Iwill was convinced that unless a Socket-A motherboard is very well designed, getting 1.1GHz and faster Thunderbird CPUs to work will be a difficult task. VIA seemed to indicate that the reason current KX133/KT133 motherboards can't reach the 133MHz FSB is because they physically made it impossible to reach that FSB setting on current designs. According to the representatives we talked to they claim that they "didn't want people messing around with [the setting]." This is after reports that there were problems with KT133 motherboards and 3 DIMMs. More Via crap: The KT266 in particular seems to be up and running in some labs but the chipset is currently only running with DDR200 (or PC1600) SDRAM, at least that's what our sources revealed to us. Unfortunately VIA was not able to guarantee that the KT266 would be ready by Q4 2000 meaning there is a slight chance that the KT266 could hit the streets in 2001. We'll just have to wait and see how long it takes VIA to crank out the chipset. The good news is that the Thunderbird is running just fine at the 266MHz FSB (133MHz DDR) but we expected that in the first place. Last year, people were afraid of Intel, this year, they are afraid of Via: We asked every single manufacturer if they planned on using ALi's solution, especially if it became available before VIA's KT266 and every single manufacturer except for one had no plans whatsoever for using the ALi chipset (M1647). Each manufacturer had their own reasons for not pursuing an ALi based DDR Athlon solution ranging from a "good relationship with VIA and no reason to disrupt it" to a more serious "we are still on not so friendly terms with ALi." I hope the 760 chipset will be out ahead of schedule to liberate AMD from dependance on this crappy company (Via). Joe

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