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By: invest2020
Reply To: 77 by bighittman Saturday, 27 Mar 1999 at 1:01 PM EST
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For the last time, really.
I posted as two different people. That was a total mistake. I did NOT lie, I did NOT hype, I did NOT reveal inside information. I think if you read the posts that will be clear. I wanted to provide useful information, I did it wrong. Nobody asked me to post. I asked my boss for permission to post. It was first refused, then granted with restrictions that by that time I had already violated. I tried to close it out cleanly, didn't realize the computer remembers the login name, and shot myself and all of us in the foot.
I'm here at 2AM reviewing the fact that I will in all likelihood be fired on Monday morning, losing a job with a company I like working for and which I think has terrific prospects. Believe me, I feel like death, and I'm sorry if I don't make sense.
Doc, if you have people in Manila and HK, please send them to our offices and report what you hear, That would at least help to undo what I've done. HK address is on the website. Manila is not, it's new. The address is Penthouse 3, Manila Luxury Condominium, Pearl Street, Ortigas Center. Phone is (632) 637 3508. Talk to Mike Palacios or Mike McCusker. Real people, doing real work, they won't know anything about anything to do with IR, they're strictly production people. As I was. If I wasn't a bloody idiot cubed, that's what I'd have stayed.
I'm actually kind of good at what I do. I went outside my competence, made a terrific mess, and all I can do is apologize. I don't think it will go over very well here, or with Tony Tobin.
It's not just expecting to lose the job. It's knowing I've screwed people that I have a lot of respect for, people that trusted me, and it feels really, really, bad.
I don't think you guys need any more of my self-flagellation; I'll go and do it in private. Please don't judge the company by me.
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[ZSUN]: Ziasun Tech
For the last time, really. I posted as two diffe
#80, Posted on Saturday, 27 Mar 1999 at 1:01 PM EST
[ZSUN]: Ziasun Tech
Truth. You're not confused at all. You're sma
#75, Posted on Saturday, 27 Mar 1999 at 8:02 AM EST
[ZSUN]: Ziasun Tech
I've got to run home in a minute (Saturday aftern
#72, Posted on Saturday, 27 Mar 1999 at 3:49 AM EST
[ZSUN]: Ziasun Tech
We seem to be building a new base in the $10-12 r
#55, Posted on Thursday, 25 Mar 1999 at 7:38 PM EST
[ZSUN]: Ziasun Tech
The barter company is probably a better deal than
#44, Posted on Monday, 22 Mar 1999 at 7:44 PM EST
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You made my night with that one, cash4us. I'm st
#40, Posted on Monday, 22 Mar 1999 at 10:01 AM EST
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No, I'm not in xnet, though I watched the perform
#36, Posted on Sunday, 21 Mar 1999 at 11:11 PM EST
[ZSUN]: Ziasun Tech
I live and work in HK; friends of mine are person
#34, Posted on Sunday, 21 Mar 1999 at 10:04 PM EST
[ZSUN]: Ziasun Tech
I've been holding this for 6 months, sold half at
#32, Posted on Sunday, 21 Mar 1999 at 9:47 PM EST
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By: invest2020
Reply To: None Saturday, 27 Mar 1999 at 8:02 AM EST
Post # of 5730
Truth.
You're not confused at all. You're smart, I've been uncontrollably stupid, we have a final confession before I go to get my butt deservedly whipped by a whole line of people.
Sequence of events:
1. I posted on the SI thread, and was told not to by my own people.
2. I decided entirely of my own accord, no prompting from anyone, that since I couldn't post as me, I would post as someone else and provide useful information to all. Dumb.
3. I received permission to post as myself, did so on SI, and was invited in completely good faith, by people who knew nothing of any of this, to post here.
4. I decided with huge relief to get rid of this fictitious person forever and just be me.
5. The computer remembered who I wasn't, and announced it to all, as you noticed.
So now I do the only thing I know how to do when I've f--cked up big time, which is to come completely clean, apologize, and walk away. I will surely be told on Monday that I am never to approach a ZSUN message board again for all eternity. Which I would do without being told, as I obviously don't belong here. Seemed so innocent at the time.
Not that I have any credibility left, but actual substance of all posts is absolutely and to the best of my ability true.
I am completely aware of the ramifications of this one, and that I've done more damage to all of us than I could have ever hoped to prevent. The intention was good, the method dead wrong.
Once again, nobody told me to do that, and I am going to be in the sh-t big time when the e-mail I just sent to my own people gets read. Whatever comes back is on my head and mine only.
I guess that's enough. Not enough, really, but what else can I say?
Good luck to all.
HMMM.. same post on 4 threads.. trying to cover shorts tomorrow?? Come on, fes
#99, SlamDunk1, Mar 30 1999 7:54PM
profit taking tommorow , but zsun will return ! i expect to see in the teens w
#98, ezmoney, Mar 30 1999 7:26PM
To my knowledge, full audit is proceeding as we speak and SEC filing will occu
#97, Oliver Schonrock, Mar 30 1999 5:30PM
Stock is holding up well for the past few days. Seems few traders getting out
#96, SlamDunk1, Mar 30 1999 4:09PM
ahoj!! You won't hear me complaining after yesterday AND today.... pi
#95, praguepivo, Mar 30 1999 4:01PM
Then go away!
#94, SlamDunk1, Mar 30 1999 3:58PM
Does this company file with the sec? 10k etc? Still bb stock?
#93, John Sanderson, Mar 30 1999 3:54PM
zsun plans to provide an e-mail service free to every website on the internet.
#92, Size, Mar 30 1999 9:02AM
Agree that this company is about to GO!
#91, JADA, Mar 30 1999 4:46AM
NO this company is just starting , you may see some profit taking tue.
#90, ezmoney, Mar 29 1999 9:24PM
Thxs FM.
#89, brk, Mar 29 1999 8:29PM
BRK, here are my thoughts on ZSUN, XNET from the Evening Edition of Club Fatt!
#88, Fatt Matt, Mar 29 1999 7:30PM
Incredible jump today. Is it too late to get on the train? Or is this baby sti
#87, Size, Mar 29 1999 7:28PM
ZSUN need we say more !!! now the non believers will be thinking
#86, ezmoney, Mar 29 1999 6:42PM
fm - wHAT'S UP ? Why the big jump today and huge volume?
#85, brk, Mar 29 1999 5:48PM
thanks Matt. good reading.
#84, Darrell Smith, Mar 29 1999 4:17PM
For those who have noticed ZSUN for the first time today:
#83, Fatt Matt, Mar 29 1999 3:31PM
Gus; I agree! If it looks like a duck....Some people, myself included, have st
#82, jjs64, Mar 29 1999 11:00AM
Zsun is up over 4 at 16 and change shortly after the open. I hope everyone has
#81, Randy berg, Mar 29 1999 10:14AM
Good morning. Speaking of releases, one hit the wires about 2 in the morning t
#80, Randy berg, Mar 29 1999 8:17AM
Oliver: No question the small cap internet sector seems hot at the moment,
#79, Dan P, Mar 29 1999 7:00AM
Nice stabilisation around the 11-12 region. Look familiar? Every milestone see
#78, Oliver Schonrock, Mar 29 1999 4:39AM
SHOULD BE ANOTHER GOOD WEEK FOR ZSUN THE NEWS
#77, ezmoney, Mar 28 1999 8:58PM
Steven: Thank you for your note. As an employee of the company, it probabl
#76, Dan P, Mar 28 1999 7:29AM
Dan, and all,
#75, Steven Rogers, Mar 27 1999 8:12AM
Here is the latest release:
#74, Dan P, Mar 27 1999 6:53AM
Steve: Thank you for your response, and participating on this forum.
#73, Dan P, Mar 27 1999 6:51AM
Francois, I took Gus' complaint seriously, as all complaints should be take
#72, Steven Rogers, Mar 26 1999 8:38PM
Gus, My comment was that nobody here, meaning on this boar
#71, Steven Rogers, Mar 25 1999 5:44PM
Steve I currently do not own any shares of ZSUN and I am sure that I am n
#70, notime, Mar 25 1999 5:34PM
Gus, That should not have happened. If you PM me your location, and if pos
#69, Steven Rogers, Mar 25 1999 3:38PM
praguepivo, it's just a warning shot across the bow for his own good.
#68, Francois Goelo, Mar 25 1999 10:12AM
ahoj!! Francois, please, don't get involved in any battles here. I have bee
#67, praguepivo, Mar 25 1999 9:52AM
Okay Guys, I should not have called it a scam cause you could never be sur
#66, notime, Mar 25 1999 9:25AM
Gus Sideris, your reckless comments deserve a Law suit in defamation...
#65, Francois Goelo, Mar 25 1999 9:17AM
You're right about Pinmail needing polishing. That is on the schedule, but ri
#64, Steven Rogers, Mar 25 1999 2:57AM
Dan: Great Find. That report really helps one understand the potential that
#63, stockman_scott, Mar 24 1999 7:57PM
Dear GUS SIDERIS
#62, Oliver Schonrock, Mar 24 1999 5:34PM
Here is the latest press release:
#61, Dan P, Mar 24 1999 3:17PM
Toshio: Check out Bill Ridley's write-up. Here is the URL. http://www
#60, Dan P, Mar 24 1999 3:15PM
Could someone post or link to a summary of co's ZSUN has a stake in or owns -
#59, Toshio, Mar 24 1999 2:26PM
Steven: Gus' about face is an obvious switch to the short position. Beside
#58, Dan P, Mar 24 1999 6:33AM
As a lot of people on this board know, I work for Momentum Asia, a ZSUN subsid
#57, Steven Rogers, Mar 23 1999 8:56PM
Randy, fair comment. For me, Veritas = James. eom
#56, Francois Goelo, Mar 23 1999 10:31AM
Hey, good for you. That is the name of the game and that is to make a profit o
#55, Randy berg, Mar 23 1999 10:28AM
Stockman, Just for your information, Veritas is the name of a pr firm, not the
#54, Randy berg, Mar 23 1999 10:23AM
Stockman: Have you ever liked a company and then after buying it
#53, notime, Mar 23 1999 9:04AM
Stockman, I concur: Veritas is a great guy with the interest of the shareholde
#52, Francois Goelo, Mar 22 1999 10:48PM
Scott, if you check company news ZSUN just came out with a very good release.
#51, Randy berg, Mar 22 1999 5:49PM
Gus: You are entitled to your opinion. Yet, you seem to change it often. He
#50, stockman_scott, Mar 22 1999 5:07PM
Personally I think this company is a SCAM!
#49, notime, Mar 22 1999 4:53PM
I took a position in ZSUN this morning. IMHO, this stock is still significant
#48, stockman_scott, Mar 22 1999 3:19PM
Dan, I have talked to Veritas and they informed me that ZSUN will be filing a
#47, Randy berg, Mar 22 1999 10:19AM
Steve, thanks for the information. I just read it and it is a very interesting
#46, Randy berg, Mar 22 1999 10:02AM
Randy, Interesting article from Asiaweek on e-commerce in Asia: http://w
#45, Steven Rogers, Mar 21 1999 10:33PM
Dan, thanks for the web site. I hope your weekend is going well. Your right ab
#44, Randy berg, Mar 21 1999 4:26PM
The top of the afternoon to you. Welcome aboard. Actually it went up over 50 p
#43, Randy berg, Mar 21 1999 4:20PM
ZSUN folks, I picked you all for Club Fatt's pick! :)
#42, Fatt Matt, Mar 21 1999 3:16PM
Randy and Oliver:
#41, Dan P, Mar 20 1999 6:44PM
I sure will and thanks......Randy
#40, Randy berg, Mar 20 1999 3:14PM
Randy, Thanks. Check my posts on Stock Watcher and InvestRight threads.eom
#39, Francois Goelo, Mar 20 1999 12:41PM
Welcome aboard. I added a bit to my position on Friday. The stock is looking v
#38, Randy berg, Mar 20 1999 12:35PM
Oliver, thanks for a good post, in line with previous ones I had read...
#37, Francois Goelo, Mar 20 1999 1:05AM
Welcome to the thread Francois Goelo !
#36, Oliver Schonrock, Mar 20 1999 12:18AM
Hello thread! I took a position in ZSUN today. From what I have read...
#35, Francois Goelo, Mar 19 1999 10:02PM
What a day. I kind of though some profit taking would take place early this mo
#34, Randy berg, Mar 19 1999 8:26PM
Good morning. It should be interesting to see what ZSUN does at the open this
#33, Randy berg, Mar 19 1999 8:29AM
Welcome to the discussion Daniel
#32, Oliver Schonrock, Mar 18 1999 4:40PM
Randy: We closed at $12! I would say, a pretty spectacular day. Regards
#31, Dan P, Mar 18 1999 4:35PM
You might not be too far off, as ZSUN is trading at 9 3/8 a few minutes after
#30, Randy berg, Mar 18 1999 10:03AM
Interview with the CEO, worth reading for anyone interested in ZSUN:
#29, Steven Rogers, Mar 17 1999 8:52PM
Finshed on 8.50 with volume of 64,000 shares. This is substantial! 13% up in
#28, Oliver Schonrock, Mar 17 1999 5:18PM
Oliver, ZSUN is making a nice little run this morning. it is up 3/8 at 7 7/8 i
#27, Randy berg, Mar 17 1999 12:06PM
Thanks for the information. That is great. the company sounds strong. i also h
#26, Randy berg, Mar 5 1999 10:23AM
There is also more good news on the horizon.
#25, Oliver Schonrock, Mar 5 1999 12:16AM
Oliver, that was a super post-------Thanks. The stock almost hit 8 yesterday a
#24, Randy berg, Mar 4 1999 10:28AM
Hi Don I have been looking at this stock for a while after I turned down an
#23, Oliver Schonrock, Feb 26 1999 9:27PM
Don, your observation is very astute. I think maybe two brother-in-laws are s
#22, Don Nestor, Feb 21 1999 12:10PM
Looks bogus. How can the profit numbers all be round numbers. How many share
#21, Don Edgerton, Feb 18 1999 8:14PM
Thanks, yep is sure is closed. Kind of boring today. (G) I hope your week has
#20, Randy berg, Feb 15 1999 1:53PM
market is closed monday, happy prez day.
#19, blankmind, Feb 13 1999 8:02PM
ZSUN traded as high as 7.81 and closed at 7.06 on Friday. The stock is looking
#18, Randy berg, Feb 13 1999 2:41PM
Thanks for the information. Looking good. ZSUN is trading at 7 1/8 this mornin
#17, Randy berg, Feb 9 1999 12:44PM
ZiaSun Subsidiary Announces Record Revenues and Earnings in 1998
#16, blankmind, Feb 8 1999 3:02PM
here is a yhoo link to your news. to bad the naz is having a down day, the new
#15, blankmind, Feb 5 1999 12:57PM
Another release just hit the wires a few minutes ago. it is long so have verit
#14, Randy berg, Feb 5 1999 12:45PM
This looks to be a hot little internet stock, and they are moving forward fast
#13, Randy berg, Feb 4 1999 6:00PM
this looks like a great stock but it is trading at 60x 1998 and 20x projected
#12, SteelerStu, Feb 4 1999 5:22PM
Zsun was up 2 1/2 earlier. Ran from 5 to 7.50, now back to 6 on heavy volume.
#11, Randy berg, Feb 4 1999 11:45AM
Jim, a nice run on zsun at the open this morning. it is up something like .60
#10, Randy berg, Feb 4 1999 10:08AM
Jim, I have received a few calls on zsun also. One friend of mine who is a sup
#9, Randy berg, Dec 14 1998 2:12PM
Hi Kenneth, I do not own any ZSUN shares. I receive frequent news letters f
#8, Jim P, Nov 17 1998 3:16PM
Thanks Jim for the write up. Am holding a few speculative shares to see what
#7, Kenneth V. McNutt, Nov 17 1998 11:16AM
Inner Circle Special Report, November, 1998
#6, Jim P, Nov 17 1998 9:30AM
Correction on cost of Titan motorcycles. I wrote$5.00. Don'
#5, Kenneth V. McNutt, Nov 10 1998 6:14PM
Try this # for IR info. on ZSUN. Ask for Jim Neil. 800-773-7317
#4, Kenneth V. McNutt, Nov 10 1998 6:08PM
LPasko--Sorry ==The Veritas URL gets you the software co, not the PR outfit. I
#3, Kenneth V. McNutt, Nov 8 1998 10:52PM
LPasko--This stock (ZSUN) was recommended to me by a PR outfit named Veritas.
#2, Kenneth V. McNutt, Nov 8 1998 9:58PM
Very interesting stock. It looks like they are positioning themselves for maj
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