| Conversation with Paul Henry on Wednesday, June 27, 2000 Part 2 
 Next we then spoke about the synergy betw. Reliant and GeneralSearch.
 Paul noted that one of the products that Reliant sells the most
 of is computers. (I later found the asseenontv.com
 web site). Paul noted that all new sales were going to be loaded
 with the free GS ISP, launching the new user to the General Search
 portal (at least until people figure out to change their target page).
 Henceforth Paul then got going into a discussion of the value of
 of a search engine and portal per customer. I interrupted him
 and asked exactly how this value per  customer was derived because
 this something I read but had never heard explained.
 
 Paul said that the $1000 dollars or so was derived from
 taking the market caps of similar search engine/portals and
 dividing the market cap. by the told number of users of that portal.
 
 He said the dollar value has decreased with the correction in the markets
 since for those that don't already know, the "market cap" is the total
 number of shares multiplied by the total number of shares outstanding.
 If share price goes down so does market cap.
 
 Anyway per Paul's comparisons to other portal/engines and
 Reliant’s current rate of computer sales, he said is was very conceivable
 to have 3 mil sold computer loaded w. GS's ISP (through first net) and
 thus by analogy and a very conservative value of $1,000 per user
 a theoretical market cap of 3 mil times $1000 or a huge market cap
 if priced relative tot he market (I'll let people do their own math).
 
 [Note that the more customers one has, i.e. the more eyeballs, the value
 of the advertising and placement of banners and hyperlinks becomes
 more valuable. Rates can be raised, plus more money can be derived
 from buy throughs to affiliate relationships, and more money is
 derived from 1stUP for info gathered and rates of placement on
 1stUP's continuous pop up]
 
 Now Paul also kept mentioning that the GS and Reliant synergy
 reiterated the "zero acquisition model" since unlike free ISP
 and Search engines like Netzero and Lycos, not one dollar
 on advertising would have to be spent to get one customer since
 all sold computers would have GS pre-loaded.
 
 Now with GS registration, Reliant sales info, and Affinity
 utilizing info to  data base mine an incredible amount of info
 is gathered and analyzed. However, this isn't all.
 
 I then asked Paul, how does "the card" factor into all of this.
 
 Paul said added to the above generated data, is the additional
 marketing info gathered from all the different branded card
 registrations thus creating a huge database of info to
 extrapolate from and utilized for the targeted marketing campaigns
 of the specific branded companies,  for infomrecial sales,
 or basically for targeted sales of just about any product or
 service leveraging this database to get
 the best   pricing with distributors to ensure being the
 near or at low cost provider   and , thus to retain, grow, and
 maximize per customer sales.
 
 I took a deep breath, because, what has been determined
 to be the best way to make money on the Internet is the
 utilization of customer information for targeted and permission
 marketing. branded companies pay big money for this stuff,
 because it ultimately saves these branded companies big money to
 target rather than mass advertise to the specific
 desired demographics.
 
 Thus my next question was about Disney, and I asked in the
 tournament still happening. I noted Max Biffi's comments
 at the share holder meeting as being the first of many
 deals with Disney. Paul wouldn't verify but said there
 would be some "expanded" announcement regarding Disney
 very "soon". He didn't elaborate on what this was, nor did
 I ask or try to probe further.
 
 Paul went on to say that more was also in the works with
 Coca Cola and Lufthansa, so these relationships were going
 full speed ahead. In my opinion, Paul for a very brief
 moment lost his better judgment and told me something he
 shouldn't have disclosed about Coke. I'm not
 going to elaborate any further on hat he said, and will
 let any forthcoming PR speak for itself. Since we were talking so
 quickly, I believe mild mannered poker face Paul got so
 enthused that he revealed some of the cards in his hand
 that he should of held tighter to his chest.
 
 Well from this point on in our conversation,
 I talked with Paul about pursuing a relationship w.
 a company with which I work that got bought by a major
 national listed corporation. I won't go into any details
 but we spoke about ways in which cards could be sold
 at different venues, and during this conversation, Paul
 reiterated that the card relationship with Miller
 was still brewing.
 
 I thanked Paul for his time, and we both agreed
 that things at tsig.com [symbol TIGI] were
 really coming together.....FINALLY.
 
 End of report. If I subsequently remember
 anything I forgot, I will issue an addendum.
 
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