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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices
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To: Paul Engel who wrote (120323)7/15/2000 7:53:14 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (5) of 1571860
 
Re: "A Canadian benchmarking company Wednesday said Advanced Micro Devices modified tests to give its Athlon microprocessor an unfair advantage over Intel's Pentium III"

As you know, AMD has a long history of both cheating and falsifying benchmarks. In addition to the one you posted where AMD was caught red handed cheating, there's the case of the falsified Intel benchmarks where no one else in the world could produce such low scores as AMD was attributing to CuMines. Then there is the current TTurd benchmarks on the AMD website done with unavailable motherboards, unavailable DirectX versions and unavailable graphics drivers. To top things off they have now posted SPEC2000FP scores which naturally use an unavailable compiler to keep up with AMD's tradition. Nevertheless it looks like someone (compaq) has finally come up with an optimizing K7 compiler and the results are not exactly what AMD was leading us to believe would happen. Remember all the claims here that the Athlon would kick CuMines butt just as soon as a K7 optimizing compiler was available. Well the answer is yes and no. It does outperform Intel's published scores at 1 GHz but so does a 933MHz Dell CuMine system and a Dell 866MHz system virtually ties the Intel 1GHz box. Clearly Dell is producing a faster box than Intel. In fact, clock for clock the Dell 933MHz CuMine beats the TTurd!!! How can this be???? The TTurd is supposed to be 7th generation technology. The TTurd has 3 FPU execution units to only 2 for the CuMine. The TTurd has more on-die cache. The TTurd has a faster memory bus. The TTurd finally has the benefit of a K7 optimizing compiler and it still trails the old outdated antique one generation behind CuMine. How can this be??????

Let's face the facts.

1) The Athlon never was 7th generation.
2) The 3 FPU execution units were long on hype and short on superior performance.
3) The larger cache didn't make up for a inferior design.
4) The faster memory bus doesn't provide superior performance.
5) A K7 optimizing compiler won't make up the difference either. AMD is better off comparing the K7 with unoptimized code to CuMine with unoptimized code.

The only hope AMD fans have performance wise is to keep the tiny MHz advantage because clock for clock the K7/Athlon/TTurd is not living up to the claims and the excuses are running out of gas.

EP
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