Those who die rejecting God can expect nothing but fear and judgement. Those that I know who have lived for the
LORD had such amazing tranquility when they died that you would think they were going off to a long awaited
reunion!
Let's not assume your statements are true.
That is "begging the question". It is a classic problem in debate because it is illogical. You can prove anything if you assume your proposition is true. For example, I'm being told by the Pink Space Bunny that you are damned. You are damned because the Pink Space Bunny said so... and so on. It doesn't go anywhere.
I won't even address how you could possibly know the state of mind of anyone when they died so I'm going to leave that one for later. We can debate that point after the first.
Instead, support your proposition with objective fact that all can independently verify at each step and, organize your statements in such a way that they adhere to the set rules of logic.
Explain to us, if you would,
a) how would a neutral party becomes convinced of your proposition through objective facts
and
b) prove that you're aren't being deceived by another force {call it Satan, if that works for you).
Thanks. Oh, BTW, you can't use circular reasoning, e.g., "God said so through his enlightened works, such as the Bible, therefore you must believe it". That is still begging the question. You must first demonstrate that there is a [gG]od and [hH]e/[sS]he/[iI]t cares a rat's ass what you or I believe.
I'm not an atheist, but some kind of pagan, I think. I admit that my pagan thoughts are a belief system and not a provable fact, so therefore, while I can offer my opinion about our ontological, it is only that, an opinion, and is not based upon subject fact. My opinion remains unprovable.
I promise I will not present my opinion as fact, e.g., "I am a pagan. Only [pP]agans go to [hH]eaven. You are not a [pP]agan. You will not go to [hH]eaven."
I will further offer that you can't prove a) or b) without first bypassing reason and resorting to faith (also stated as "trust me" or "because I said so"). |
