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Non-Tech : Conseco Insurance (CNO)
CNO 40.02+0.3%Oct 31 9:30 AM EST

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To: Tunica Albuginea who wrote (2366)8/14/2000 4:43:33 PM
From: Tunica Albuginea  Read Replies (2) of 4155
 
8/14/00 – Evening NEWS and REVIEW of CNC.

Commentary

CNC closed unchanged today.

7 5/8 Vol. 1.69 mill.

At the close Bid 102300 @ 7 ½ , Ask 3000 @ 7 9/16.

The technical analysis today ( per eSignal )
was very positive:

-volume
even lower than ALL of last 4 weeks,

-Bollinger bands
between bid and ask TIGHTENING,
ie buyers need to come up with more cash,

-Money Flow
steadily INCREASING X 1 week

-1/2 hour ( 1245-1315 ) of
almost NO trades!!

-SHORTING stock IS PIDDLY...100, 200, 500 shares.
We don't see the 50000, 100000 blocks of 2-3 weeks ago.
Shorty Inc is running out of bullets...CNC stock to short...
click...click...empty chamber..

-STAYING ABOVE 50 day Moving Average.

-DECREASING STOP -LOSS sell orders,

Shorty Inc. starting to feel the heat..

pants getting sweaty....

:-))

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Today CNC named David Herzog Executive Vice President and
General Counsel .


biz.yahoo.com

About Herzog

bakerdaniels.com
messages.yahoo.com

and

Baker & Daniels Law firm he works at:

bakerdaniels.com

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It is suspected ( but not yet verified )
that Bull-Dog-Herzog will be coming
after some tender Pink meat such as this;

Mr.P$nk trashing Gary Wendt:
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Message 14133572
“ Didn't you see the 666 carved in the back of Wendt's head.
Nothing short of a silver bullet between the eye will kill this turd.
But give it time, dear and good friend, this steamy smoldering turd
will dry and wither in the afternoon sun and blow away
with the morning wind and then you and He shall stand victorious
with the profits and spoils that are the right of all good soldiers
who fight the battle against evil companies and
strive to protect the common man. “
Mr. P$nk

messages.yahoo.com 88
“Wendt needs to stand and deliver something more satifsying than books in a fluffy dough. What will the Pillsbury doughboy cook up next? “

MP

doughboy.com
“Click for photo of Gary “
by: Mr_Pink_esq

messages.yahoo.com 88
Wendt showing his petulant colors by
selectively discosing information to analysts.

Mr. P$nk

messages.yahoo.com 88
employee moralle terrible over Bendt
hiring. How would you feel if you were told you gotta cut back and suck it up and some bitter guy who looks li
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Of course ringside seats for this epochal dog-fight are at a premium.
We know Herzog pulls no punches
( or shall we say,..." rabid bites "...).

We are now waiting for Pinky’s next bark
( or whine as the case may be ),

Cheers and good will,

back later,

TA

PS Late closing News:

Fitch places some Conseco, Green Tree ABS on alert
biz.yahoo.com

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CNC Balance Sheet
conseco.com
CNCRestructuringProgram.com

quicken.com
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CNC CHART & Technical Analysis
CHART
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SI CHART
siliconinvestor.com
MONEY FLOW Stats by Softechie Aug 8, 3000 :
Message 14184790
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MAJOR RECENT ARTICLES ON CNC
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moneynet.com@NEWS-P2&Index=1&HeadlineURL=../News/NewsHeadlines.asp&DISABLE_FORM=&NAVSVC=News\Company
Aug 9 (Reuters) - Conseco Finance, fixed final terms for its 2000-4 series $1.2 billion
nine-tranche asset-backed bond launched on August 4.
Rating Aaa/AAA/AAA
ragingbull.altavista.com
Aug. 9,: A consortium of eight insurance companies has completed a $40.5 million investment in
affordable-housing projects across the state, the first test of an effort to get insurers
to voluntarily invest in community development.
ragingbull.altavista.com
Aug. 4, 2000: Conseco prices senior classes of $1.2 bln ABS deal favorably
ragingbull.altavista.com
Aug. 4, 2000:Conseco Capital Management Names New Co-Portfolio Managers
for Conseco High Yield Fund
ragingbull.altavista.com
Aug. 4, 2000: Dow Jones Newswires
Conseco Promotes From Within After High-Yield Exodus
7/27/00 BUSINESS WIRE:
CONSECO Announces Restructuring Program ,Parts I, II, III & IV , from RB
ragingbull.altavista.com
quicken.com
DOW JONES NEWSWIRE 7/27/00:COMPLETE EPS REPORT
1: dowjones.work.com
2: dowjones.work.com
3: dowjones.work.com

7/24/00 BLOOMBERG: WENDT GETS RID OF LEOPARD CHAIR AND .......PROTECTS SHAREHOLDER EQUITY:
quote.bloomberg.com
. 7/19/2000 WENDT HIRES Ex-GE CRISIS TEAM
biz.yahoo.com
7/12/2000 20 MILLION PAID TO HIRE WENDT
Wendt gets 45 mill less than if he had stayed at the Golf Course and got paidby GE to non - compete and do nothing. GE gets 10 mill CNC shares,
will make another killing.
messages.yahoo.com
6/30/2000 WENDT BACK FROM HONEYMOON messages.yahoo.com
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VARIOUS CNC INVESTORS
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GABELLI FUND UP 23% has 9% of position in CNC:
messages.yahoo.com
PROFIT VALUE FUND: 4 star Morningstar rating.
In last 3 months has added new position in Conseco,
to make in 8th largest position;
position similar in size to its holding in Berkshire.
messages.yahoo.com
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BROKERS’ and ANALYSTS ‘ OPINION
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8/10/2000Gary Smith from REALMONEY.COM at The StreetCom
puts a buy on CNC with a stop at 7.
Anyway, here are a few charts to look at as you sip your morning Cafe Yukon:
thestreet.com
ragingbull.altavista.com
thestreet.com
8/5/00 S & P raises Outlook to highest, 5 ( on scale 1 to 5 )
messages.yahoo.com
7/30/00 STANDARD AND POOR UPGRADES CNC TO 4 STARS FROM 3 STARS
Message 14133330

7/31/00 Merrill Lynch messages.yahoo.com
.7/26/00 LEHMAN MAINTAINS OUTPERORM II ON CNC Message 14109720
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OVERVIEW of CONSECO INSURANCE RATINGS =========================================
conseco.com
RATING AGENCIES , MOODY’S, S & P etc
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Aug. 11. 2000:Conseco 2000-4 $1.2B Manufactured Hsg Contract P-T Rtd By Fitch
Message 14200638
biz.yahoo.com
Aug. 11, 2000: Fitch Downgrades Conseco Rtgs
biz.yahoo.com
Message 14200576
S & P
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www2.marketwatch.com
ragingbull.altavista.com
S&P cuts Conseco Fin status
Aug. 8, 2000--3:18 pm - By Chris Kraeuter
Conseco Finance's credit rating status was revised to "negative" from "developing" by Standard & Poor's. According to a S&P statement, S&P "believes Conseco Finance's creditworthiness is severely limited by a lack of funding flexibility and aggressive leverage." Also, S&P cited its belief that the finance unit will not be sold to a "higher-rated" entity in the foreseeable future. Conseco Finance's ratings were placed on "developing" on March 31. Conseco's (CNC: news, msgs) ratings status was placed on "negative" on April 7. Currently, Conseco shares are down 1/16 to 7 7/8 on volume of 2.8 million shares.

ragingbull.altavista.com
Comment from RB poster on above S & P reports:
messages.yahoo.com
8/9/00 1:58:00 PM : Business WireS&P Places Various Green Tree Cert Rtgs on Watch Neg
The revision in the CreditWatch status reflects the increasing likelihood that
Conseco Finance will not be sold to a higher-rated entity in the foreseeable future.

ragingbull.altavista.com
Comment from RB poster on above S & P reports:

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MOODY’S
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quote.bloomberg.com
. " While Moody's said it expects the company and its bank lenders to reach a satisfactory agreement,
it said the details of such an agreement and the effects on Conseco's operations remain uncertain.

moodys.com
New York, June 30, 2000 -- Moody's Investors Service has downgraded the credit ratings of
Conseco, Inc. and its affiliates (senior debt rating to Ba3 from Ba1).

moodys.com
New York, April 20, 2000 -- Moody's Investors Service lowered the senior
unsecured debt ratings of Conseco, Inc. and Conseco Finance to Ba1 from Baa3.

MORNINGSTAR/FINANCIAL
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messages.yahoo.com
Morningstar grades CNC a B-, for financial health, just slightly below average
for insurance industry and average for universe of stocks.

DALBAR Insurance Rating Web site
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Part 1
messages.yahoo.com

Part 2
messages.yahoo.com

FITCH

8/14/00Fitch places some Conseco, Green Tree ABS on alert

biz.yahoo.com

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VARIOUS OTHER ISSUES IN CNC:
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ISSUE OF PRODUCING A GIANT SHORT SQUEEZE:
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First, to effect a short squeeze in CNC and see a giant squirt
of cash upwards in your CNC stock:
b) ask your broker to put the stock out of Street name, or
b) ask your broker to put a sell price “ good till cancelled “
at let’s say $40 or $50. That will remove it from the short pool..
c) or simply ask him to restrict it, ie you don’t want to have it
loaned out for shorting.
Aug: 11, 2000:REUTERS: "Liquidator" Jacobs bets on insurer's turnaround
biz.yahoo.com
Message 14172703
CNC in WORTH Magazine via Maverick Capital's Hedge Fund Manager - Lee Ainslie.
Ainslie is a noted short seller who has averaged 24.8% after fees with $5B under management.
He has covered his CNC position: “ I am not going to go
Against somebody of Wendt’s reputation “.

8-1-00 Star Tribune: Neal St. Anthony/On Business:
Jacobs roars, short sellers yawn
startribune.com
7/31/00 J.J. CRAMER FROM TheStreetCom editorializes: “ A great Idea !!!”
ragingbull.altavista.com

7/27/00 IRWIN JACOBS WANTS TO PRODUCE A SHORT SQUEEZE.
……….He puts this Ad in WallStJ. then other papers
messages.yahoo.com
streetmonkey.com

PERSONAL on Irwin Jacobs
IRWIN JACOBS PICTURE : interactive.wsj.com
Angling for Tie-Ins, Irwin Jacobs Took Up Big-Time Bass Fishing
interactive.wsj.com
Message 14204449


An introductory song about short covering:
amazon.com
messages.yahoo.com
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CURRENT SHORT INTEREST
is ! 64, 000, 000 shares accordint to Wall St. Jour.
But could be much higher, 78,211,523 shares
According to this web site:
trading-ideas.com

Shorting Rules
ragingbull.altavista.com
BOOKS ON SHORTING
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(We encourage would be shorts to read these
and go ahead short some more and make
Mr.Wendt’s Day when the big squeezarooo comes along).
capatcolumbia.com
” Bad “ Shorting Advice from Mr.P$nk
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“Mr. Pink's Picks: selected event-driven value investments “
in SI Thread, by Mr. P$nk Esq.
Message 14187856

MISCELLANEOUS SHORTING
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CNC Stock Analysis of the day by paulthebigfinn at YAHOO board
messages.yahoo.com
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7/22/2000 ISSUE OF CNC BANKRUPTCY
or of DILUTION of SHAREHOLDER EQUITY

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Part I messages.yahoo.com.
Part II messages.yahoo.com.
messages.yahoo.com.

7/28/00 :ISSUE of FABER CNBC REPORT & CONTROVERSY
( ie that Wendt is going to dilute shareholder equity ?).

ragingbull.altavista.com
7/29/00 reply by ta to FABER Report: CNBC FABER is either LYING or MISINFORMED
messages.yahoo.com
7/24/00 Cnet : ''We're not going to be diluting shareholder value at ridiculously low prices,'' Wndt said.
cnetinvestor.com
messages.yahoo.com
7/31/00 FABER CORRECTS HIMSELF: “ CNC WILL N O T ISSUE ANY N E W EQUITY “.
boards.cnbc.com
Thank you Mr. FABER.
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ISSUE OF MR.T.LEE'S PREFERRED STOCK
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messages.yahoo.com
messages.yahoo.com
ISSUE of VALUE of PREFERRED STOCK
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messages.yahoo.com
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LAWSUITS, INTERNET AND CNC
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8/14/00 CNC hires David Herzog as V.P. and General Counsel
Message 14211926
From Law firm Baker and Daniels
a very large Indianapolis firm:
bakerdaniels.com

REVIEW OF RECENT INTERNET LAWSUITS:
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Message 14157877

Friday August 4, H-Quotient, Inc., Files Suit Against Alleged Stock Manipulators Message 14173025

The most recent Lawsuit won by Biometrix
Message 14158321

And just before that New subpoenas on the way
biz.yahoo.com
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NEGATIVE ARTICLES ON CNC
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7/27/00 TheStreetCom: Herb's Hotline: Oversight by Conseco?
thestreet.com
7/10/00 TheStreetCom: Conseco Sets Rich Pay Package for New CEO, By Peter Eavis
Message 14023449
7/11/00 Herb's Hotline: Will These Conseco Capers Never Cease?
By Herb Greenberg
thestreet.com
&/14/00 Bloomberg :Conseco Outdoes Itself in Piling Gifts on Wendt:
by Graef Crystal
ragingbull.altavista.com
7/31/00 Warburg initiates coverage with hold;
messages.yahoo.com
7/31/00WSJ Colin Devine from Smith Barney is worried about CNC
messages.yahoo.com
messages.yahoo.com
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MISCELLANEOUS
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MISCELLANEWS CNC NEWS

August 11, 2000: Dow Jones News: Conseco Preferred gains in NYSE
Message 14204249
August 11, 2000: Dow Jones News:
CNC FLEXIBLE PORTFOLIO MUTUAL FUNDS TOP PERFORMANCE
Message 14204221

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WHY I INVEST IN CONSECO
ragingbull.altavista.com
.WHAT IS CNC REALLY WORTH?
View from a competitor Mr>Nauert, CEO of CERES:
starnews.com
A note from RB about who Nauert is:
ragingbull.altavista.com
WHO IS GARY WENDT
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MAGAZINE ARTICLES ON GARY WENDT
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Aug. 7, 2000 :BUSINESS WEEK
ragingbull.altavista.com
My comments on Business Week Article: Music…Music…Music..
Message 14127197
1997 FORBES/GECAPITAL: " BLOWING BUBBLES "
forbes.com
PREVIOUS REVIEW POSTS ON GARY WENDT
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. July 5, 2000: REVIEW OF GARY WELCH LIFE AND ARTICLES
Message 13993832
July 10, 2000: W S J : GE Capital’s Wendt: " A BRUTAL NEGOTIATOR "
Message 14023303
WENDT'S BUSINESS CARD
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I am responsible for 38% of GE's net income:
GE’s profit has come increasingly from Financial Services
That’s GECapital, the company I run, at GE:
businessweek.com
And here how I compare with the giants:
Revenues
quicken.com
Cash Flow
quicken.com
Net Income
quicken.com
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TA
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