No, by the end of my note I got to 50s, based on yours and Elmer's assumptions
I'm sorry Joe. I didn't mean to be rude, maybe it came out that way, but whether you believe it or not, a process that was yielding 50%, or even 60%, would be considered Non-High Volume Manufacturable, by today's Semiconductor Manufacturing standards. Maybe it is O.K. for the low volumes of Dresden, but if it's true, they better get their act together..... soon.
Sorry, but Jerry Sanders doesn't strike me as announcing "Worst Case", and you know it
I am not sure how it strikes you, but I gave you my opinion.
I don't even know what to say to this one. Really Joe, you expect me to believe..... that YOU believe that Mr. EGO himself.... Jerry Sanders.... announced a "Worst Case Scenerio"??? Is that REALLY what you expect me to believe..... that you honestly think that....??? REALLY....??? Jeez Joe, ya didn't strike me that way in your previous posts. If you think I'm gonna believe that DEEP Down inside, that's REALLY what you think...... Then I can only conclude, that you must really think I'm stupid.
Well baby, I got news for ya, those kind of yield numbers wouldn't even pay the bills. You can spin it any way you want to, but it still comes out that 50% yield is crap, and would be unacceptable to any modern Semiconductor Manufacturer. If my tools were producing 50% Yield wafers, I'd be fired. But like you said, you're no expert. I am.
I can come up with another set of assumptions resulting in 60 to 70% yield. What would it achieve?
You don't know what AMD's yields are. You may have some idea what Intel's yields are, but you can't post it. By the way, you are not be the first one who claimed inside knowledge. There were others, and some of them posted with a degree of smugness almost approaching yours only to be proven wrong later.
Joe
PS: Let's talk bin splits
Of course, we could sit here and speculate all day, it wouldn't prove anything. All I'm saying, is if AMD is at 30% capacity in Dresden, and Full Capacity in Texas, then their output numbers sound low..... Based On My Experience.
Your right, I can't quantify it with yield numbers. I like my job thank you, and I don't intend to lose it for you, or anybody else on these boards. And don't expect me to announce bin-split numbers either. That would be even more foolish.
You're right, I don't know AMD's numbers. I'm sure lots of people think I'm wrong. Maybe things ARE great over at Dresden. Maybe there's no difficulty running that Dual- Damascene Process, or keeping the copper out of the front end.....
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But it just doesn't feel that way......
I've been wrong before.
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