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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!!

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To: Neocon who wrote (85828)8/20/2000 10:50:17 AM
From: jbe  Read Replies (1) of 108807
 
Neo, you did not answer my central question, to wit:

So, which is it: are the liberals "inside" the consensus, or "outside" it?

Otherwise put: how can you equate liberalism with extremism in one post, and in another define extremism as being outside a general liberal/conservative "consensus"?

Now, for a few "new" points:

I would bet I know more conservatives than you do, and read more conservative publications. I am making an empirical observation.

By the same token, I could argue that I know more (self-described)liberals than you do, and read more (self-described) liberal publications. which would put me in a better position than you to make empirical observations about them.

The key word here, which you left out, is self-described. You yourself noted the problems with self-description (although you didn't mention the special pitfall of self-congratulatory self-description).

In theory, and in practice, for example, a reactionary can call himself/herself a conservative, while remaining a reactionary.

And please note: you evidently accept self-described conservatives' self-congratulatory definitions of conservativism, as well as their generally derogatory definitions of liberalism. Hey -- turn about fair play!

No, the buzzwords do NOT have "legitimate analytic meaning," at least, not in the hands of a partisan.

More often than not, buzzwords serve only to obscure the real issues, rather than to illuminate them.

Joan
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