Michael, James and gang,
OK, let's talk about telecom service providers. I just looked at a number of stocks (T, WCOM, BTY, VZ) and they are floundering near 52 week lows. I know that Mike flipped T on his "new lows" rule and I flipped WCOM on DT acquisition speculation. However, I want to raise more general questions:
1. Is this "a good business"? For ages, T had a great unassailable cash cow. I would even claim, it was a Buffetty business. It's definitely not Buffetty anymore, but is it at least "a good business"?
Positives: Current infrastructure that has to be replicated by any new players. Maybe current customers. Maybe current wireless licenses. Same for current cable infrastructure (T).
Negatives: Cap ex for infrastructure? Old, difficult to maintain infrastructure? Cutthroat competition cutting return-on-infrastructure? No growth prospects?
2. How to value these companies? Most of them are going through acquisitions, divestitures, tracking-stocks, joint ventures, partial investments, etc. PE, PSR are mostly unapplicable. Mike's analysis on T was great, but it may become obsolete very quickly. Also looking at historical data T is at a good price point, but is it really? I also liked WCOM's results, but is it going to survive without buying some ridiculously valued wireless company?
Is there a sufficient margin-of-understanding to just buy them at price X, without going into nitty-gritty financial details?
3. Currently stocks are trading on merger, divestiture, etc. rumours. That is one possibility to profit. Another one is a long term hold ala cable companies a few years ago. However, I did not understand why cable companies were undervalued then, and I am pretty much in the same situation with telcos now. Buffett would advise to stay out - or to stay in a "circle of competence". For long-term holders TTH may be an attractive option.
Any ideas, comments?
Jurgis |