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To: Ian@SI who started this subject8/24/2000 8:16:30 PM
From: richard surckla  Read Replies (2) of 93625
 
ALi's DDR mobo (Translated fm Japanese)(CORRECTIONS AND ALL)
by: frfritz66
8/24/00 5:56 pm
Msg: 151199 of 151240

Hey guys, I know the Japanese language. Here's my translation of
the interesting article about the first DDR chipset by ALi.

Original article in Japanese

watch.impress.co.jp

Title:

ALi's first DDR-memory Chipset was announced for Japanese market.
Demonstration motherboards with DDR-266 separate-North/South type
were made public.

Taiwan's Acer Laboratories (ALi) announced the first Chipset which
supports the DDR memory for the Japanese market. It was announced
in the U.S. in July 26 which supports Pentium II/III and Celeron
(Slot 1/Socket 370). It includes a lineup of four types:
Aladdin Pro 5 for desktop, Aladdin Pro 5M for Mobil PC, AliMAGiK 1
for Athlon/Duron (Slot A/Socket A) desktop, and MobileMAGiK 1 for
Mobile PC.

The sample shipments of all of the chipsets have started and the
quantity shipments are expected in Q4. Pricing for 20K lot is
Aladdin Pro 5 = $33, Aladdin Pro 5M = $38, ALiMAGiK 1 = $31 and
MobileMAGiK 1 = $36.

The company's marketing manager, Mr. Andrew Lin said "With these
chipset, DDR's deployment may become earlier than expected before".
He emphasized that "This is another step in the direction where
DDR is becoming the mainstream in the PC industry".

As reported in the earlier PC Watch news, the chipsets introduced
today are made of two kinds: the two North Bridge chips, "M1651"
and "M1647" which are for Slot 1/Socket 370 and for
Slot A/Socket A respectively and the two South Bridge chips,
"M15345D+" and "M1535+" which are for Desktop and Mobile PC
respectively. These two sets provide a total of four configurations.

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Excerpts in the Q/A session after the announcement:

To a question of whether one can manufacture a motherboard which
supports both DDR and SDRAM (not simultaneously), the answer was
that there is no technical problem, but due to the increased cost,
no such requests have been made by system makers or mobo makers.

A Samsung representative said Samsung is now manufacturing 128Mbit
DDR and preparing for the production of 256Mbit DDR memory. In
early next year, it can produce 512 Mbit DDR. He asked PC makers
to design DDR based models without worry emphasizing that the
DDR supply infrastructure is being readied.

Mr. Desi Rhoden of Advanced Memory International said about RDRAM,
"For PC system, the price is everything. From that viewpoint,
the result is obvious", implying the superiority of DDR.
The ALi president, Mr. Chin Wu also said "Since ALi has the Rambus
license, it is prepared to provide (RDRAM) products, if the market
want them. But, that requires other conditions such as the supply
of memory module besides the chipsets. Therefore, he believes
the DDR is it for the near future."

-----------------

In another room after the announcement, Iwill showed a demonstration
machine using the "KA266-R" which uses the ALiMAGiK 1 which was
introduced on August 1, 2000. Besides the "KA266-R", it also
displayed a motherboard which can completely split the North Bridge
and the South Bridge. According to Iwill, the "KA266-R" will be
available on October 1, 2000.

The demo PC had the 750MHz Athlon (Thunderbird) with 64MB of DDR-266,
GeForce2 GTS running the demonstration of 3DMark2000.

Translated by frfriz66 (2000-08-24)
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Re: ALi's DDR mobo (Translated fm Japane
by: frfritz66
8/24/00 5:58 pm
Msg: 151200 of 151240

Earlier, I posted Msg: 151199 as a translation of the article.

watch.impress.co.jp

(I skipped just a few sections).

I just want to add one thing of interest to those technically inclined.
The pictures of the motherboard which was mentioned in the article.
It was not running as a demo PC but rather displayed at the show as
a motherboard design.

For your convenience, I extracted the following three links to the pictures.

watch.impress.co.jp

watch.impress.co.jp

watch.impress.co.jp

The accompanying text says this motherboard has a very interesting design
with the CPU and the memory module (Noth Bridge) which is inserted into
the bottom board via a PCI socket. The bottom (South Bridge) board has
various I/O ports. It says when you swap the North Bridge board
(the CPU/Memory parts), you can use Socket A, Slot A, or Slot 1 and Slot 370.
It says this is only a test sample for display but not for retail sales.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 151199 by frfritz66
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ALi's DDR mobo (Japanese) Part 3
by: frfritz66
8/24/00 6:23 pm
Msg: 151212 of 151240

I was rushing to give my first translation post to you all and
had skipped a few paragraph in the middle in my first msg:151199.

The original article in Japanese is:

watch.impress.co.jp

The few paragraphs that follow the two ALi chip pictures which I
skipped in my last posting show a few performance parameters which
of some interest. So, here they are...

The two North Bridge chips, "M1651" and "M1647" are identical
except for the CPUs they support. The most important characteristics
are the DDR support (266/200 memory for PC2100/PC1600 DDR). They
also support PC133 SDRAM. Maximum of 3GB memory, AGP 4X mode.
When you use the DDR-266 memory, the memory bandwidth will be
up to 2.1 GB/sec.

According to ALi, the motherboard using the DDR 200 memory system
showed performance approximately 65% higher than the one with
SDRAM in actual tests.

The South Bridge chips, M1535D+ (for Desktop) and M1535+ (for
Notebook), have the same basic specifications;

2 channels UDMA-100,
AC-Link,
HSP (Host Signal Processing) softmodem,
Sound Blaster Pro/16 compatible sound capabilities,
6-port USB

The only difference in the M1535+ (for notebook) is its support
of ACPI and the Athlon's "Power-Now!" support which controls
voltages and clock.

(Translated by frfritz66 2000-08-24)

Posted as a reply to: Msg 151200 by frfritz66
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