<font color=red> SEPT. 20,2000 COMPLETE CNC REVIEW
CNC NEWS, REVIEW, FUNDAMENTAL DATA AND COOL LINKS
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CNC Balance Sheet
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conseco.com
FUNDAMENTALS
quotes.nasdaq.com
9-2-00 Morningstar Quicktake® Report
Business Appraiser:
quicktake.morningstar.com
C H A R T S
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Stockcharts:
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stockcharts.com
. Interactive Point and Figure charting for CNC
( allow it to load and then play with right lower sidebar till you get
green xxx’s pointing to $10 ).
stockcharts.com
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CNC Restructuring Program.com
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quicken.com
Earnings Growth @ MSN MONEY CENTRAL
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.Earnings Estimates
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Silicon Investor
Message 14250661
NASDAQ-Info-Quote
earnings.nasdaq-amex.com
BLOOMBERG Earnings Growth Estimates :
quote.bloomberg.com
PREFERRED STOCK & BONDS
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finance.yahoo.com
Money Flow Data
by Softechie
siliconinvestor.com
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VARIOUS CNC INVESTORS & BROKER RATINGS
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Sept. 8, 2000: NASDQAQ InfoQuote has 2 Buys, 2 Strong Buys and 9 holds.
That’s up from prior 4 weeks where they had
LEH & ING only , as Accumulate:
earnings.nasdaq-amex.com
8/10/2000Gary Smith from REALMONEY.COM at The StreetCom
puts a buy on CNC with a stop at 7.
Anyway, here are a few charts to look at as you sip your morning Cafe Yukon:
thestreet.com
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thestreet.com
Sept 8, 2000:Flag Investors Value Fund
. flaginvestors.com
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Aug. 29, 2000:DLJ has a big position in CNC as of 6-30-2000 and
is UP 429% from previous Q.
insidertrader.com
GABELLI FUND UP 23% has 9% of position in CNC:
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GABELLI FUND UP 23% has 9% of position in CNC:
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Comments on Gabelli by YHOO poster tired_of_drivel
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PROFIT VALUE FUND: 4 star Morningstar rating.
In last 3 months has added new position in Conseco,
to make in 8th largest position;
position similar in size to its holding in Berkshire.
messages.yahoo.com
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9-2-00 Morningstar Quicktake® Report
quicktake.morningstar.com
Major Fund Owners
quicktake.morningstar.com
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8/15/00 Bloomberg: Novell, Conseco Are Among the True Stock Bargains: J. Dorfman
cnetinvestor.com
Message 14220318
8/5/00 S & P raises Outlook to highest, 5 ( on scale 1 to 5 )
messages.yahoo.com
7/30/00 STANDARD AND POOR UPGRADES CNC TO 4 STARS FROM 3 STARS
Message 14133330
Maintains: Accumulate: messages.yahoo.com
7/31/00 Merrill Lynch messages.yahoo.com
7/26/00 LEHMAN MAINTAINS OUTPERORM II ON CNC Message 14109720
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MAJOR RECENT ARTICLES ON CNC
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Sept. 19, 2000 Dow Jones Newswires
Conseco Expected To Offer $300 Mln Home Improvement Debt
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. 9/14/00 :Conseco Reaches Agreement With Lehman Brothers on Finance Unit
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9/14/00 -A. M. Best via COMTEX
Conseco Cleared to Use 'Upstream' Cash for Debt Repayment
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08-31-00 (BUSINESS WIRE)--Conseco, Inc. announced today an agreement with Chase Manhattan Bank and Bank of America to extend to Sept. 22, 2000, $155 million in loans to Conseco.
news.morningstar.com
Aug. 30 Bloomberg Conseco Shares Gain as Bank Debt Rescheduling Pact Expected
By Dan Lonkevich
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Aug.29,2000: The StreetCom
Conseco Near a Deal to Extend Loans
Message 14298004
Aug. 17,2000: Business Wire: Wendt Battles Shorts
Message 14227830
.Aug.15,2000: 1) Lehman Is Latest Hurdle For Conseco's Recovery
Message 14214595
Aug.15,2000: Conseco Still Negotiating Debt Maturity With Lenders
Message 14214598
..Aug. 14,2000: FITCH TO UPGRADE COMSECO?? Because it is
over collateralized?
Message 14212528
. Aug 9 (Reuters) - Conseco Finance, fixed final terms for its 2000-4 series $1.2 billion
nine-tranche asset-backed bond launched on August 4.
Rating Aaa/AAA/AAA
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Aug. 9,2000: A consortium of eight insurance companies has completed a $40.5 million investment in
affordable-housing projects across the state, the first test of an effort to get insurers
to voluntarily invest in community development.
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.Aug. 4, 2000: Conseco prices senior classes of $1.2 bln ABS deal favorably
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.Aug. 4, 2000:Conseco Capital Management Names New Co-Portfolio Managers
for Conseco High Yield Fund
Conseco Promotes From Within After High-Yield Exodus
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.7/27/00 BUSINESS WIRE:
CONSECO Announces Restructuring Program ,Parts I, II, III & IV , from RB
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.http://www.quicken.com/investments/news/story/bw/?story=/news/stories/bw/20000727/a2620.htm&symbol=CNC
. DOW JONES NEWSWIRE 7/27/00:COMPLETE EPS REPORT
1: dowjones.work.com
2: dowjones.work.com
3: dowjones.work.com
7/24/00 BLOOMBERG: WENDT GETS RID OF LEOPARD CHAIR AND .......PROTECTS SHAREHOLDER EQUITY:
quote.bloomberg.com
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7/19/2000 WENDT HIRES Ex-GE CRISIS TEAM
biz.yahoo.com
. 7/12/2000 20 MILLION PAID TO HIRE WENDT
Wendt gets 45 mill less than if he had stayed at the Golf Course and got paid by GE to non - compete and do nothing. GE gets 10 mill CNC shares,
will make another killing.
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8/21/00:CONSECO INVESTOR RELATIONS SAYS:
Mr. Wendt paid the taxes on the bonus. His bonus was not grossed up. He received $45 million before taxes.
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6/30/2000 WENDT BACK FROM HONEYMOON messages.yahoo.com
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OVERVIEW of CONSECO INSURANCE RATINGS
conseco.com
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RATING AGENCIES , MOODY’S, S & P etc
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.FITCH
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Aug. 14,2000: FITCH TO UPGRADE COMSECO?? Because it is
overcollateralized?
Message 14212528
Aug. 11. 2000:Conseco 2000-4 $1.2B Manufactured Hsg Contract P-T Rtd By Fitch
Message 14200638
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biz.yahoo.com
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Aug. 11, 2000: Fitch Downgrades Conseco Rtgs
biz.yahoo.com
Message 14200576
S & P
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www2.marketwatch.com
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S&P cuts Conseco Fin status
Aug. 8, 2000--3:18 pm - By Chris Kraeuter
Conseco Finance's credit rating status was revised to "negative" from "developing" by Standard & Poor's.
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Comment from RB poster on above S & P reports:
messages.yahoo.com
8/9/00 1:58:00 PM : Business WireS&P Places Various Green Tree Cert Rtgs on Watch Neg
The revision in the CreditWatch status reflects the increasing likelihood that
Conseco Finance will not be sold to a higher-rated entity in the foreseeable future.
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Comment from RB poster on above S & P reports:
.MOODY'S
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quote.bloomberg.com
. " While Moody's said it expects the company and its bank lenders to reach a satisfactory agreement,
it said the details of such an agreement and the effects on Conseco's operations remain uncertain.
moodys.com
New York, June 30, 2000 -- Moody's Investors Service has downgraded the credit ratings of
Conseco, Inc. and its affiliates (senior debt rating to Ba3 from Ba1).
moodys.com
New York, April 20, 2000 -- Moody's Investors Service lowered the senior
unsecured debt ratings of Conseco, Inc. and Conseco Finance to Ba1 from Baa3.
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MORNINGSTAR/FINANCIAL
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Morningstar grades CNC a B-, for financial health, just slightly below average
for insurance industry and average for universe of stocks.
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DALBAR Insurance Rating Web site
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Part 1
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Part 2
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VARIOUS OTHER ISSUES IN CNC:
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ISSUE OF PRODUCING A GIANT SHORT SQUEEZE:
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MOST RECENT
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8-29-00The Original PAC-MAN Short_Squeeze Strategy remains intact and in force
Silicon Investor version
Message 14284021
RB Version
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First, to effect a short squeeze in CNC and see a giant squirt
of cash upwards in your CNC stock:
a) ask your broker to put the stock certificate
out of Street name, and in YOUR name or
b) simply ask him to restrict it, ie you don't want to have it
loaned out for shorting.
8-29: ANATOMY of A Short Squeeze
Message 14330070
8-28 Cramer:The Street Com:
Buy-In Blues
. thestreet.com
8-21-00: StreeetCom.com:
What Happens When Short-Selling Goes Bad
thestreet.com
biz.yahoo.com
Message 14247932
Aug: 11, 2000:REUTERS: "Liquidator" Jacobs bets on insurer's turnaround
biz.yahoo.com
Message 14172703
CNC in WORTH Magazine via Maverick Capital's Hedge Fund Manager - Lee Ainslie.
Ainslie is a noted short seller who has averaged 24.8% after fees with $5B under management.
He has covered his CNC position: I am not going to go
Against somebody of Wendt’s reputation
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8-1-00 Star Tribune: Neal St. Anthony/On Business:
Jacobs roars, short sellers yawn
startribune.com
. 7/31/00 J.J. CRAMER FROM TheStreetCom editorializes: A great Idea !!!
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7/27/00 IRWIN JACOBS WANTS TO PRODUCE A SHORT SQUEEZE.
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He puts this Ad in Wall StJ. then other papers
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streetmonkey.com
September 13, 2000 Dow Jones Newswires
Irwin Jacobs Takes Crusade Vs Conseco Shorts Online
interactive.wsj.com
And puts his web site up
irwinljacobs.com
IRWIN JACOBS PICTURE : interactive.wsj.com
Angling for Tie-Ins, Irwin Jacobs Took Up Big-Time Bass Fishing
interactive.wsj.com
Message 14204449
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CURRENT SHORT INTEREST
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SHORT INTEREST
8-22-00 Wall Street Journal
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Short Interest According to this web site:
trading-ideas.com
Shorting Rules
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BOOKS ON SHORTING
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(We encourage would be shorts to read these
and go ahead short some more and make
Mr.Wendt¡¦s Day when the big squeezarooo comes along).
capatcolumbia.com
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BAD SHORTING ADVICE
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Mr. Pink's Picks: selected event-driven value investments
in SI Thread, by Mr. P$nk Esq.
Message 14187856
. MISCELLANEOUS SHORTING
8-29-00Cramer The Street Com: complains about negative web postings;
they attacked his family::
A Message for Message-Board Rumor Mongers: Clean Up Your Act
thestreet.com
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CNC Stock Analysis of the day by paulthebigfinn at YAHOO board
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Post on stock Bashers:
Stock Bashing Business is Booming
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7/22/2000 ISSUE OF CNC BANKRUPTCY
AND of DILUTION of SHAREHOLDER EQUITY
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. Part I messages.yahoo.com.
Part II messages.yahoo.com.
messages.yahoo.com.
. 7/28/00 :ISSUE of FABER CNBC REPORT & CONTROVERSY
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.( ie that Wendt is going to dilute shareholder equity ?).
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.7/29/00 reply by ta to FABER Report: CNBC FABER is either LYING or MISINFORMED
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. 7/24/00 Cnet : ''We're not going to be diluting shareholder value at ridiculously low prices,'' Wendt said.
cnetinvestor.com
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7/31/00 FABER CORRECTS HIMSELF:
" CNC WILL N O T ISSUE ANY N E W EQUITY ".
.http://boards.cnbc.com/jetson/message.asp?forumid=1695&messageid=459074&threadid=459074
Thank you Mr. FABER.
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ISSUE OF MR.T.LEE'S PREFERRED STOCK
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Aug.16:RBull: by Normal_Deviate
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Aug.16:RBull: by NJ-Gator:
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ISSUE of VALUE of PREFERRED STOCK
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LAWSUITS, INTERNET AND CNC
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8/14/00 CNC hires David Herzog as V.P. and General Counsel
Message 14211926
.From Law firm Baker and Daniels
a very large Indianapolis firm:
bakerdaniels.com
REVIEW OF RECENT INTERNET LAWSUITS:
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Message 14157877
.8/30/00 Sample of Potential Lawsuit Material in CNC YHOO Message Board
( This are actionable because they have been mailed to CNC and are available
in their hard Drive in HTML format and can no longer be erased )
post.messages.yahoo.com
Friday August 4, H-Quotient, Inc., Files Suit Against Alleged Stock Manipulators Message 14173025
The most recent Lawsuit won by Biometrix
Message 14158321
And just before that New subpoenas on the way
biz.yahoo.com
NEGATIVE ARTICLES ON CNC
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8/17/00 The StreetCom: Good News with a BAD Spin
which StreetCom specializes in:
Message 14230638
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7/27/00 TheStreetCom: Herb's Hotline: Oversight by Conseco?
thestreet.com
7/10/00 TheStreetCom: Conseco Sets Rich Pay Package for New CEO, By Peter Eavis
Message 14023449
7/11/00 Herb's Hotline: Will These Conseco Capers Never Cease?
By Herb Greenberg
thestreet.com
&/14/00 Bloomberg :Conseco Outdoes Itself in Piling Gifts on Wendt:
by Graef Crystal
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7/31/00 Warburg initiates coverage with hold;
messages.yahoo.com
7/31/00WSJ Colin Devine from Smith Barney is worried about CNC
messages.yahoo.com
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BUT!!!September 1, 2000 smartmoney.com. Denounces Colin Devine as
being Wrong :
Message 14322877
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<MISCELLANEOUS
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MISCELLANEWS CNC NEWS
August 11, 2000: Dow Jones News: Conseco Preferred gains in NYSE
Message 14204249
August 11, 2000: Dow Jones News:
CNC FLEXIBLE PORTFOLIO MUTUAL FUNDS TOP PERFORMANCE
Message 14204221
Sept. 18,2000 Business week:
Financial Stocks: Suddenly Sexy
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WHY I INVEST IN CONSECO
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.WHAT IS CNC REALLY WORTH?
View from a competitor Mr.Nauert, CEO of CERES:
Message 14173062
A CNC competitor!! ,Mr.Nauert, CEO of Ceres says that
starnews.com
If sold to the right buyers, Nauert said, Conseco's insurance operations could bring as much as $7 billion. That's the equivalent of $21 a share -- nearly three times Conseco's current stock price.
And this is from a competitor!!!!
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WHO IS GARY WENDT
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.Why Wendt took job at CNC
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Sept.5,2000: YHOO poster Corporate_Barbarian’s post is still a classic, on why Wendt took the job at CNC: He stands to make a GIANT amount of money when he gets CNC up to $30.
messages.yahoo.com
Same by paulthebigfinn
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Details of Pay package are in Form 8-K ( see Edgar ):
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W E N D T the person
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Aug. 7, 2000 :BUSINESS WEEK
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My comments on Business Week Article: Music Music Music..
Message 14127197
1997 FORBES/GECAPITAL: " BLOWING BUBBLES "
forbes.com
July 5, 2000: REVIEW OF GARY WELCH LIFE AND ARTICLES
Message 13993832
July 10, 2000: W S J : GE Capital’s Wendt: " A BRUTAL NEGOTIATOR "
Message 14023303
FORBES: GE faces future without Welch:
forbes.com
They should have said Wendt since he was responsible for 36% of it’s income:
”After dominating the old economy, Welch embraced the new one, shifting GE away from its manufacturing roots and toward services like GE Capital, which now account for most of its business (GE had revenue of $110.8 billion and net income of $10.7 billion in 1999). ”
WENDT'S BUSINESS CARD
I run GECapital, GE’s most profitable part for 13 years
forbes.com
I am responsible for 38% of GE's net income:
GE’s profit has come increasingly from Financial Services
That’s GECapital, the company I run, at GE:
businessweek.com
And here how I compare with the giants:
quicken.com
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APPENDIX DEDICATED TO MISCELLANEOUS IN SHORTING
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RUMORS
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These are posted as an appendix because we cannot verify them:
Rumor that AXA will buy CNC:
ON The Move: Is Conseco a Takeover Target?
biz.yahoo.com
You need REAL PLAYER for a broadcast of this.
teknalysis in RB speculated that at a $20 buyout Wendt gains tremendously on his
common stock deal
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Furthermore at $20 all insider debts are gone!!
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The rumor appeared in JAG notes
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An introductory song about short covering:
Come on baby, we got a lot of short-coverin' goin' on !!
By Jerry Lee Lewis
amazon.com
It HURTS to be a SHORT
amazon.com
( aka #2 It Hurts to Be in Love By Gene Pitney )
amazon.com
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Shorts felt REALLY BAD today.
How bad does it feel? Check this
amazon.com
#5: Like a Rolling Stone
amazon.com
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Shorts thought of going the Hemlock way.We suggested they do it properly
And go here:
Here's the proper way to use Hemlock:
First become informed
hemlock.org
Then
"Think Happy Thoughts"
as
by Jack Handey...
hemlock.org
Then do it.
COVER YOUR BUTT!!!COLD TURKEY is always best:
hemlock.org
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SHORTS GONE SOUR.
Example: Mr.P$nk
1st: BAD SHORTING ADVICE, in
. Mr. Pink's Picks: selected event-driven value investments
in SI Thread, by Mr. P$nk Esq.
Message 14187856
Dumb CNC shorts:
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Wendt poses the historical question
to all CNC Shorts and in particular to
CNCShorts troop-leader Mr.P$nk, pink-punk-pantheon.de
Did they feel Lucky?
This was the exchange:
Gary: you've got to ask yourself one question shorty :
“ do i feel lucky?..........well do ya punk?"
localsonly.wilmington.net
localsonly.wilmington.net
" I know what you're thinking.
Did he buy six shares or only five of CNC .
Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement,
I kind have lost track myself.
but bein' this is a 44 WENDT Magnum,
the most powerful BRAIN in the world,
and would blow your financial head clean off,
you've got to ask yourself one question
.......do i feel lucky?..........well do ya punk?"
GARY WENDT aka “ Dirty HARRY “
Shorts: Requiescat in pace.
May you rest in peace.
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CNC Disclaimer for Dummies :
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" Be careful: Investing has been compared to gambling.
Thus as in Las Vegas,
investing in CONSECO could cause you to loose your wallet,
your car and trailer, plane tickets, Bank Account, house,
wife and job and you can become crippled and die. ".
Let the buyer beware!!!!!!
More Info From Uncle Sam, cradle to grave care and handholding here:
sec.gov
sec.gov
How Market makers Manipulate YOU
otcnn.com
And how to SPOT SHORTS and Similar STOCK-BASHERS:
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