Re: 9/21/00 - [CCCX] Shareholder solicits contributions to sue "basher"
By: aceinvestor10 $$$
Reply To: 2697 by Jeff.Mitchell $$$ Thursday, 21 Sep 2000 at 11:04 PM EDT
Post # of 2773
Jeff, This afternoon I called the Arizona BLM at 602.417.9200 and spoke with Mary Hyde and Paul Buff. Simply put, I asked if zeolite was a locatable mineral and they said yes. The issue of mining the material comes into play when the person owning the claims files for a mining permit.
These two were very helpful and responsive.
I also spoke with Ken Santini who also said that zeolite was a locatable mineral. He is a consultant and did some work in the past on the permanent mining plan. He is in the process of moving but I will try to reach at home again tomorrow. He is very knowledgeable about zeolites ( he did a great deal of the exploration of claims for Anaconda. He also referred me to Bill Tilden an attorney in southern California who specializes in mining law..
My brother flew over the mining site. There are three places that have been mined. The Arizona BLM informed him that everything is in order and CCCX is the registered owner of 58,000 tons of zeolite. It is in the earth with 0 to 20 feet of overburden. In other words, mining it will be cheap.
I will be talking to Mr. Tilden at length tomorrow. I have already had more conversation with enough officials today to know you are full of shxt. You wasted my day today. I rode to Madison Texas today with Karl Jacobs (what a great guy) to meet Mr. Wisenbaker, who was kind enough to drive from Houston and meet us. He will be posting the facts in his own name shortly on this board. He would like to meet you in Arizona on the mine site and take you to the BLM and satisfy you. I’m sure you are to chicken shxt to show. Loser pays all expenses.
Here's my deal. I am tired of you lying about this company that I have invested in. I understad basher, but that is not what you are. I will be exploring every avenue to discover who you are starting in the morning. Applicable charges will be filed against you. You better check the law and hire an attorney. I suggest he be a criminal attorney. Raging bull will hear from my attorney tomorrow. I don’t know what action the company will take but, MF’s coming after you.
I am organizing a shareholders fund to go after Jeff. If no one wants to contribute, I will still pursue him until I find him. I was informed by the Fort Worth Police Department that there is an internet service that can track you to your computer. We are going to find out how good they are. I will be meeting them tomorrow for that information.
This company has great people. More world class ones coming on shortly. Quit waisting you time with this bastxxd. Sorry for my language, but I have had it.
ragingbull.altavista.com
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By: primetime100 $$$
Reply To: 2745 by aceinvestor10 $$$ Thursday, 21 Sep 2000 at 11:23 PM EDT
Post # of 2775
THANKYOU ACE, 1st class job of due dilligence.Count me in on expense sharing.This board doesn't need that kind of dialogue.and cccx doesn't deserve it.
ragingbull.altavista.com
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By: Fredyfreeloader $$$
Reply To: 2745 by aceinvestor10 $$$ Thursday, 21 Sep 2000 at 11:26 PM EDT
Post # of 2775
There is nothing so low as someone who try's to destroy a company with lies. E-mail me at Fredyfreeloader@yahoo.com with wire transfer instructions. I'm in for a thousand. I also may be able to help you identify Jeff. No secret I want CCCX cheap, say .10 cents, but I want it healthy. I publish truth, not lies.
ragingbull.altavista.com
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By: gambler2010 $$$$
Reply To: 2745 by aceinvestor10 $$$ Thursday, 21 Sep 2000 at 11:33 PM EDT
Post # of 2777
Ace, I'm in. E-mail me where to bank transfer $1,001. I wish I had read the post before Fredy and Prime. I like to be first and can't let Fredy out do me. I just met you, and already we are comrads. It will be fun at the annual shareholders meeting, geting to know all of you in person.
ragingbull.altavista.com
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By: DD_Thurber68 $$$
Reply To: 2745 by aceinvestor10 $$$ Thursday, 21 Sep 2000 at 11:34 PM EDT
Post # of 2777
ACE - Way to GO!!! That's what I'm talking about.
ragingbull.altavista.com
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By: ariesabout $$$
Reply To: 2745 by aceinvestor10 $$$ Thursday, 21 Sep 2000 at 11:39 PM EDT
Post # of 2778
ACE: I see you've done your homework. I owe you a steak!!
ragingbull.altavista.com
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By: KONABEAR $$$
Reply To: 2745 by aceinvestor10 $$$ Friday, 22 Sep 2000 at 12:20 AM EDT
Post # of 2778
Right on the mark
Ace, You have done your DD. I know several of the persons you mentioned in your post. How did you ever track down Ken Santini? Is he still in the Englewood, CO area? He is one of the best zeolite geologists in the country. Mary Hyde handled the AANP filings for the Arizona claims. Unfortunately, I did not get my posts on early enough to eliminate you having to go to this effort. If you read them you will find much of the info you just discussed. More people need to do their DD.
ragingbull.altavista.com
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By: Jeff.Mitchell $$$
Reply To: 2745 by aceinvestor10 $$$ Friday, 22 Sep 2000 at 12:23 AM EDT
Post # of 2778
Ace, I also initially called the same number your provided for the BLM. I was then told to call the field inspectors to get the specifics about the newly acquired CCCX claim. Apparently you failed to do that. Of course zeolite can be mined... there are zeolite mines across the US and the world. Let's stick to the facts as they apply to CCCX. Let's start with the following memo dated October 14, 1990:
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Mr. Louis B. Mehr
Texas Arizona Mining Company
1907 Tarpley
Katy, Texas 77493
Dear Mr. Mehr:
We have accepted your mining notice for work you propose to do on your Rhyolite No. 3 mining claim located in Yavapai County, Arizona. However we would like to bring to your attention that your company was notified in November 1988 that it is the BLM's opinion that the material you propose to mine is not a locatable mineral under the mining law.
We feel it would be in your best interest to contact us prior to any mining activity.
Please contact Bob Fisk at (602) 863-4464.
Sincerely,
Carole K. Hamilton
Area Manager
Lower Gils Resource Area
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Just so there was no misunderstanding, I specifically asked about zeolite and whether the memo applied to the other related claims (i.e. Rhyolite No. 4). I was told the reason the zeolite located in the tuft was deemed not locatable was because it was "not zeolite grade", and, yes, that applied to all the related claims.
My conversation with the field office lasted quite some time. I also made calls to various other offices, such as the Yavapai Recorder's office. Much of what I've posted came from notes from these calls, not from idle speculation as you imply.
As for the rest of your post, my favorite part was "I am organizing a shareholders fund to go after Jeff. If no one wants to contribute, I will still pursue him until I find him. I was informed by the Fort Worth Police Department that there is an internet service that can track you to your computer." LOL! That made my day.
First of all, as I told you, I use my real name. If you had any common sense you'd have clicked on my profile here on Raging Bull, seen where I live, and verified that by dialing 411. Second, had you taken the time to read my other posts here you'd have seen I mainly post on Silicon Investor. Furthermore, I maintain a thread there on Investment Chatboard Lawsuits, i.e. people just like me who get sued for exercising their right to free speech (see siliconinvestor.com. You see, I've already been sued three times... although, sorry to disappoint you, I've never been found guilty of a single charge nor have I spent a penny out of pocket in legal fees. Nevertheless, it's your legal right to sue me if you see fit, so whatever floats your boat. In the mean time, just to give us a sense of whether what I've said constitutes defamation, what say we run it by the SEC and see what they say?
- Jeff
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By: aceinvestor10 $$$
Reply To: 2768 by Jeff.Mitchell $$$ Friday, 22 Sep 2000 at 1:03 AM EDT
Post # of 2779
Just put your money up and meet us in AZ, you little chicken shxt. Short of that, shut the hxll up. We will be meeting soon anyway you little weasel. I went over all financial and stock arrangements with Mr. Wisenbaker and my attorney. Nothing illegal, or uncommon, and in fact will produce cash earnings for this company. He's not the one selling,
Fred, if you can help me identify Jeff, OK, Otherwise I want nothing to do with you either. Jeff, you're going to spend some money this time. I hope you are using your real name.
ragingbull.altavista.com
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By: Jeff.Mitchell $$$
Reply To: 2779 by aceinvestor10 $$$ Friday, 22 Sep 2000 at 1:16 AM EDT
Post # of 2782
Now, now, calm down. Take a few deep breaths. Open a window. Take a walk. Your health is much more important than a few dollars.
As for Mr. Wisenbaker, no one is accusing him of anything "illegal" or "uncommon". Several people have just asked who he was and why he got 1.5 million shares, that's it. You aren't going to sue those people as well are you?
BTW, how did you happen to come across the "financial and stock arrangements" given to Mr. Wisenbaker? This, as far as I know, is not public information. What other non-public information about CCCX do you also possess?
- Jeff
ragingbull.altavista.com
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By: aceinvestor10 $$$
Reply To: 2782 by Jeff.Mitchell $$$ Friday, 22 Sep 2000 at 1:22 AM EDT
Post # of 2785
Don't worry about my health, worry about your own. We came across it from your distorted postings. Everything about his dealings with the company are recorded. See you in AZ. Till then, just shut up. Post the time you'd like to meet us there.
ragingbull.altavista.com
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- Jeff |
