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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective
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To: TimF who wrote (1980)10/10/2000 12:30:27 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) of 10042
 
You need to to read the Constitution and quit making this up. I'm not ignoring the words, like "well-regulated militia", you are. It is still poorly written, if that is what you are saying.

You said:
However the 2nd amendment doesn't give any rights to the militia, it gives the rights to the people.

It says:
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Then why does the darn thing start talking about the well-regulated militia to put it in context? Good grief. The right of the people (in the abstract, as a collective) shall not be infringed. It's not like we don't have 50 Commanders in Chief of the National Guards elected by the people. If we only had a centralized government, then maybe. I agree, there is a tradition of gun ownership and regulation of that ownership in the hands of private citizens and a reasonable expectation that that will continue. That claim is tenuous based upon ONLY the 2nd amendment. Much like the constitutional claims for slavery.

The impersonal language here in the 2nd amendment is very different than that elsewhere. Not "in their persons" like the language of the 4th, or "person" in the 5th Amendment or or "owner" like in the 3rd, or "the accused" like in the 6th, all singular specific. It is impersonal and abstract. If you are asserting that you are part of a well-regulated militia, go for it.
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