""vertebrate" fossils?" Well obviously I was mistaken, but I was responding to Gus when he said, "there weren't many sophisticated life forms (like vertebrates). Now, how would you expect a jellyfish to fossilize --it's made of 99% water?" Message 14647657 I must have hit a nerve because you are getting nasty. Everyone seems to think your so nice, I'm not sure why. Could it be they just have not disagreed with you yet? Challenging Darwin's Myths (excerpt) By Mark Hartwig leaderu.com In March 1992, a landmark symposium took place at Southern Methodist University in Dallas. At that meeting, Phillip Johnson, Stephen Meyer, William Dembski, Michael Behe, and other Christian scholars squared off against several prominent Darwinists. The topic of debate was "Darwinism: Science or Philosophy?" The proceedings of the meeting have since been published in a book by the same title.... The remarkable thing about the meeting was the collegial spirit that prevailed. Creationists and evolutionists met as equals to discuss serious intellectual questions. Of course, few issues were resolved. But in today's climate, where dissent is frequently written off as religious bias, just getting the issues on the table was an accomplishment in itself. What's more, several months after the debate, one prominent Darwinist who participated in the symposium publicly conceded that one of the points Johnson made at the meeting was correct: namely that Darwinism is ultimately based as much on philosophical assumptions as on scientific evidence. This admission, which took place at a national meeting of country's largest science society, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, scandalized the Darwinist community, which likes to portray evolution as an indisputable fact. It was all the more scandalous because the speaker had specifically been invited to the meeting to denounce Johnson. So things are slowly beginning to change. Creationists are still far from winning, but things are getting better. As Johnson points out, creationist arguments are getting more sophisticated, while most Darwinists are still responding with cliches. Thus, it's now the creationists who come across as asking the hard questions, and demanding fair debate." Name calling and insults are unnecessary in a real debate. For the record what are your qualifications? Do you have degrees in any of the subjects we are discussing, and what might they be? Have a pleasant day Greg |