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To: Joe NYC who wrote (16369)10/28/2000 5:15:46 PM
From: dougSF30Read Replies (1) of 275872
 
Joe, re: KT133 FSB hard to get over 110 MHz

Joe, here's more on that issue:

aceshardware.com

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Hi!

> That is a good question, and it may come down to what batch your
> processor came from. It has been shown that certain processor
> batches overclock better than others. I really wonder if the
> reason no one has been able to overclock past 115MHz is not the
> processor, but the chipset.

It's the chipset.

> The old Tbirds and Durons may overclock to
> 133Mhz (266 DDR) easily if they are paired with a stable chipset that
> was designed to do that.

ALL Durons/TBirds work on a 133 MHz DDR FSB if the multiplier is adjusted to keep the core within its limits.

> I doubt that the revisions to the Tbird to get
> it to go to 266DDR were extensive;

No revision to the core at all.

> in fact I'll bet the revision is not
> on the core itself, but on those components surrounding it on the chip.

Well, the multiplier is set to a lower value and some contacts tell the chipset to set the FSB to 133 MHz DDR. That's it.

> The VIA KT133 is a great chipset, but I don't think the engineers had
> mass-overclocking in mind when they developed it. The reason for your
> system unstability may be more chipset related than processor
> related....maybe. So it appears to be one of those perplexing
> questions that the only real answer I can think of is "wait and
> see".

It's not that the KT133 chipset was done without the o/cer in mind, it comes from the very same company that also makes Apollo Pro133a that o/c 30-40% without much hassle. Word has it that the limitations are due to a clock generator that is not up to the task of overclocking.

Ciao

Martin

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Doug
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