<font color=red>Oct. 30 , 2000 COMPLETE CNC NEWS, REVIEWS & COMMENTARY
The Tritel Telecorp merger has finally been approved by the FCC:
Reuters:AT&T affiliate TeleCorp wins FCC okay to buy Tritel
WASHINGTON, Oct 27 (Reuters) TeleCorp PCS (TLCP), AT&T Corp.'s (T)
2nd LARGEST AFFILIATE , won approval Friday from the U.S.
Federal Communications Commission for its $5 billion acquisition of
another affiliate, Tritel Inc. (TTEL), with conditions.
news.moneycentral.msn.com
suncom2.com
CNC's Interest in Telecorp:
news.stockmaster.com
The TLCP/TTEL deal, under eventual buyout by AT&T (AWE ),
appears to have a BRIGHT future:
Message 14681377
Meanwhile, most of the bad news is out. And guess what,
the Short position has increased: 60 Million , up from 52 mill pre Wendt.
So, what we need now are
MORE MORONIC SHORTS to KEEP SHORTING CNC
so that we can really show them what
The Internal Combustion Engine looks like:
Go ahead and short, Shorts: Make our day…………
TA, Living it and Loving it.
Still owning 100% pf his original CNC shares
and bought more at $5.
Go pac men:
pac pac
buy buy
don't sell.
====== >>SHOOOOOOOOOOORT SQUEEEEEEEEEEZE!!!!!!!!!!
TA
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CNC NEWS, REVIEW, FUNDAMENTAL DATA AND COOL LINKS
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R E S O U R C E S :
NICE site to get IMMEDIATE NEWS FROM DOWJONES
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Interesting site to get many previous articles and reports, rumors etc
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Oct. 27, 2000: WASHINGTON, Oct 27 (Reuters) - TeleCorp PCS
(TLCP), AT&T Corp.'s (T) 2nd LARGEST AFFILIATE ,
won approval Friday from the U.S. Federal Communications Commission
for its $5 billion acquisition of another affiliate, Tritel Inc. (TTEL), with
conditions.
news.moneycentral.msn.com
suncom2.com
Oct 26,2000 Q3 Earnings fro Business Wire ( Best review ):
Profit From Insurance & Finance Businesses Up
``We are determined to start 2001 with a strong balance sheet.'' Gary C. Wendt
Message 14672066
Oct 26,2000 Q3 Earnings from Bloomberg
cnetinvestor.com
Oct. 19 (Bloomberg) Conseco's Berube on Plans for Bankers Life Unit: Comment
quote.bloomberg.com
10/18/00 Bloomberg Conseco Shares Gain 26% on News of Incremental Improvements
cnetinvestor.com
messages.yahoo.com
Oct. 17, 2000Turnaround Memo #2
from Gary Wendt.
CNC Website
conseco.com
conseco.com
YHOO
biz.yahoo.com
MSN
news.moneycentral.msn.com
and SI CNC website:
Message 14604407
Oct. 5, 2000--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Fitch has rated Conseco Finance Corp's (Conseco)
manufactured housing contract senior/subordinate pass-through certificates
series 2000-5 $626.3 billion class A-1 through A-7 certificates 'AAA'.
Message 14520982
10-4-00: The Street.Com:#1 CNC Critic, Peter Eavis , NOW admits he screwed up his
projections of CNC's earnings. He states:
" It now appears that our tax treatment of the projected cash flows was incorrect."
thestreet.com
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3-Oct-00 : Merrill Lynch -" financial stability is less of an issue."
Maintains Neutral Outlook.
Message 14501552
Oct. 3, 2000 (Bloomberg) Conseco Shares Tumble Amid Investor Concern About Debt and earnings
quote.bloomberg.com
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September 29 CNC writes An Open Memo to Conseco Shareholders and Other Interested Parties about Shorts Misinforming On CNC EPS:
biz.yahoo.com
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Sept. 25 (Bloomberg): Conseco's Wendt Says He Expects Debt Rating Upgrade 'Shortly'
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Sept. 25 BW: A.M. Best Affirms B++ Rating of Conseco Life Subsidiaries
siliconinvestor.com
Message 14449876
Sep 25, 2000 (BUSINESS WIRE) :Fitch Comments on Conseco's Bank Agreement
Rating Reviews Continue
siliconinvestor.com
Message 14450072
Sept;23, 2000:Indianapolis Star Starnews.com:Conseco, lendser OK debt..
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Business Wire: Friday September 22, 5:50 pm
Conseco `Restoration Plan' Moves Forward
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Message 14440157
Friday, September 22, 2000 05:46 PMConseco, Banks Agree To Restructure $2.8B In Debt
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Friday September 22
Conseco prices $300 million asset-backed offering
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Sept. 19, 2000 Dow Jones Newswires
Conseco Expected To Offer $300 Mln Home Improvement Debt
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. 9/14/00 :Conseco Reaches Agreement With Lehman Brothers on Finance Unit
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9/14/00 -A. M. Best via COMTEX
Conseco Cleared to Use 'Upstream' Cash for Debt Repayment
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08-31-00 (BUSINESS WIRE)--Conseco, Inc. announced today an agreement with Chase Manhattan Bank and Bank of America to extend to Sept. 22, 2000, $155 million in loans to Conseco.
news.morningstar.com
Aug. 30 Bloomberg Conseco Shares Gain as Bank Debt Rescheduling Pact Expected
By Dan Lonkevich
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Aug.29,2000: The StreetCom
Conseco Near a Deal to Extend Loans
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Aug. 17,2000: Business Wire: Wendt Battles Shorts
Message 14227830
.Aug.15,2000: 1) Lehman Is Latest Hurdle For Conseco's Recovery
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Aug.15,2000: Conseco Still Negotiating Debt Maturity With Lenders
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..Aug. 14,2000: FITCH TO UPGRADE COMSECO?? Because it is
over collateralized?
Message 14212528
. Aug 9 (Reuters) - Conseco Finance, fixed final terms for its 2000-4 series $1.2 billion
nine-tranche asset-backed bond launched on August 4.
Rating Aaa/AAA/AAA
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Aug. 9,2000: A consortium of eight insurance companies has completed a $40.5 million investment in
affordable-housing projects across the state, the first test of an effort to get insurers
to voluntarily invest in community development.
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.Aug. 4, 2000: Conseco prices senior classes of $1.2 bln ABS deal favorably
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.Aug. 4, 2000:Conseco Capital Management Names New Co-Portfolio Managers
for Conseco High Yield Fund
Conseco Promotes From Within After High-Yield Exodus
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.7/27/00 BUSINESS WIRE:
CONSECO Announces Restructuring Program ,Parts I, II, III & IV , from RB
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.http://www.quicken.com/investments/news/story/bw/?story=/news/stories/bw/20000727/a2620.htm&symbol=CNC
. DOW JONES NEWSWIRE 7/27/00:COMPLETE EPS REPORT
1: dowjones.work.com
2: dowjones.work.com
3: dowjones.work.com
7/24/00 BLOOMBERG: WENDT GETS RID OF LEOPARD CHAIR AND .......PROTECTS SHAREHOLDER EQUITY:
quote.bloomberg.com
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7/19/2000 WENDT HIRES Ex-GE CRISIS TEAM
biz.yahoo.com
. 7/12/2000 20 MILLION PAID TO HIRE WENDT
Wendt gets 45 mill less than if he had stayed at the Golf Course and got paid by GE to non - compete and do nothing. GE gets 10 mill CNC shares,
will make another killing.
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8/21/00:CONSECO INVESTOR RELATIONS SAYS:
Mr. Wendt paid the taxes on the bonus. His bonus was not grossed up. He received $45 million before taxes.
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6/30/2000 WENDT BACK FROM HONEYMOON messages.yahoo.com
WHO IS GARY WENDT
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W E N D T the person
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Aug. 7, 2000 :BUSINESS WEEK
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My comments on Business Week Article: Music Music Music..
Message 14127197
1997 FORBES/GECAPITAL: " BLOWING BUBBLES "
forbes.com
July 5, 2000: REVIEW OF GARY WELCH LIFE AND ARTICLES
Message 13993832
July 10, 2000: W S J : GE Capital's Wendt: " A BRUTAL NEGOTIATOR "
Message 14023303
FORBES: GE faces future without Welch:
forbes.com
They should have said Wendt since he was responsible for 36% of it's income:
"After dominating the old economy, Welch embraced the new one, shifting GE away from its manufacturing roots and toward services like GE Capital, which now account for most of its business (GE had revenue of $110.8 billion and net income of $10.7 billion in 1999). "
WENDT'S PAST PERFORMANCE
He run GECapital, GE's most profitable part for 13 years.
Ge's Engine for Growth ".
forbes.com
Thus, he was responsible for 38% of GE's net income 1990-1998
As GE's profit came increasingly from Financial Services
businessweek.com
How he compares with the giants:
quicken.com
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FUNDAMENTAL DATA AND COOL LINKS
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CNC Balance Sheet
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9-2-00 Morningstar Quicktake® Report
Business Appraiser:
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Stockcharts:
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stockcharts.com
. Interactive Point and Figure charting for CNC
( allow it to load and then play with right lower sidebar till you get
green xxx's pointing to $10 ).
stockcharts.com
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CNC Restructuring Program.com
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Earnings Growth @ MSN MONEY CENTRAL
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Message 14250661
NASDAQ-Info-Quote
earnings.nasdaq-amex.com
BLOOMBERG Earnings Growth Estimates :
quote.bloomberg.com
PREFERRED STOCK & BONDS
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Interesting link by Susan
Part I
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Part II
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Money Flow Data
by Softechie
Money flow stats 12/1/99-10/2/00 in 1/8 range.
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VARIOUS CNC INVESTORS & BROKER RATINGS
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Oct 26,3000 Bloomberg: Comments on Q3 earnings
cnetinvestor.com
Sept. 8, 2000: NASDQAQ Info Quote has 2 Buys, 2 Strong Buys and 9 holds.
That's up from prior 4 weeks where they had
LEH & ING only , as Accumulate:
earnings.nasdaq-amex.com
Sept 8, 2000:Flag Investors Value Fund
. flaginvestors.com
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Aug. 29, 2000:DLJ has a big position in CNC as of 6-30-2000 and
is UP 429% from previous Q.
insidertrader.com
GABELLI FUND UP 23% has 9% of position in CNC:
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GABELLI FUND UP 23% has 9% of position in CNC:
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Comments on Gabelli by YHOO poster tired_of_drivel
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PROFIT VALUE FUND: 4 star Morningstar rating.
In last 3 months has added new position in Conseco,
to make in 8th largest position;
position similar in size to its holding in Berkshire.
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.9-2-00 Morningstar Quicktake® Report
quicktake.morningstar.com
Major Fund Owners
quicktake.morningstar.com
8/15/00 Bloomberg: Novell, Conseco Are Among the True Stock Bargains: J. Dorfman
cnetinvestor.com
Message 14220318
S & P Reiterates accumulate--4 Stars
Oct. 21,2000
Part I
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Part II
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10/18/00
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8/5/00 S & P raises Outlook to highest, 5 ( on scale 1 to 5 )
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7/30/00 STANDARD AND POOR UPGRADES CNC TO 4 STARS FROM 3 STARS
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Maintains: Accumulate: messages.yahoo.com
OCT. 3 , 2000: Merrill Lynch Maintains Neutral
same as before ( see below ) but now with " LESS UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE FUTURE "
Message 14501552
7/31/00 Merrill Lynch Maintains Neutral
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10-2-00: Solomon Smith Barney: Maintains Neutral/High Risk
Colin Devine has always been bearish on CNC .
Message 14500598
7/26/00 LEHMAN MAINTAINS OUTPERORM II ON CNC Message 14109720
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OVERVIEW of CONSECO INSURANCE RATINGS
conseco.com
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RATING AGENCIES , MOODY'S, S & P etc
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Oct 16, 2000 :Irwin Jacobs put out a new memo where he explains how the
Oct 2000 sell off is due to Funds selling CNC for tax loss purposes
as well as because they are not allowed to hold stocks without dividends
after CNC cut the dividend,
irwinljacobs.com
Message 14592515
Oct. 3, 2000: Irwin Jacobs comments on rating Agencies outlook:
irwinljacobs.com
Sept. 25 (Bloomberg): Conseco's Wendt Says He Expects Debt Rating Upgrade 'Shortly'
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A.M. Best
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. Sept. 25 BW: A.M. Best Affirms B++ Rating of Conseco Life Subsidiaries
siliconinvestor.com
Message 14449876
.FITCH
Sep 25, 2000 (BUSINESS WIRE) :Fitch Comments on Conseco's Bank Agreement
Rating Reviews Continue
siliconinvestor.com
Message 14450072
Aug. 14,2000: FITCH TO UPGRADE CONSECO?? Because it is
overcollateralized?
Message 14212528
Aug. 11. 2000:Conseco 2000-4 $1.2B Manufactured Hsg Contract P-T Rtd By Fitch
Message 14200638
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biz.yahoo.com
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Aug. 11, 2000: Fitch Downgrades Conseco Rtgs
biz.yahoo.com
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S & P
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www2.marketwatch.com
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S&P cuts Conseco Fin status
Aug. 8, 2000--3:18 pm - By Chris Kraeuter
Conseco Finance's credit rating status was revised to "negative" from "developing" by Standard & Poor's.
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Comment from RB poster on above S & P reports:
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8/9/00 1:58:00 PM : Business WireS&P Places Various Green Tree Cert Rtgs on Watch Neg
The revision in the CreditWatch status reflects the increasing likelihood that
Conseco Finance will not be sold to a higher-rated entity in the foreseeable future.
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Comment from RB poster on above S & P reports:
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. " While Moody's said it expects the company and its bank lenders to reach a satisfactory agreement,
it said the details of such an agreement and the effects on Conseco's operations remain uncertain.
moodys.com
New York, June 30, 2000 -- Moody's Investors Service has downgraded the credit ratings of
Conseco, Inc. and its affiliates (senior debt rating to Ba3 from Ba1).
moodys.com
New York, April 20, 2000 -- Moody's Investors Service lowered the senior
unsecured debt ratings of Conseco, Inc. and Conseco Finance to Ba1 from Baa3.
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Morningstar grades CNC a B-, for financial health, just slightly below average
for insurance industry and average for universe of stocks.
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DALBAR Insurance Rating Web site
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Part 2
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BUSINESS PROSPECTS IN CONSECO:
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Oct 26,2000 by billyjoerobidoux :Expected 2000 Asset Sales Status
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1 ]MANUFACTURED HOUSING
Sept.12/PRNews:Manufactured Homes Sales Growth Strong
dowjones.work.com
Oct.3,2000 BARRON'S :" Bullish Manufactured Housing " Green point ".
ie: Predictions of the death of manufactured housing
where premature:
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2 ] SECURITIZATION ACTIVITY
Post by Normalsky in YHOO,
Oct. 27,2000:
messages.yahoo.com
$11.6 billion of securitized loans carried on CNC balance sheet as of 9/30/2000.
These loans have been accounted for under the portfolio method whereby the
interest income is not recognized until it is actually earned….
.. should be yielding about 3.5% per year after bad debt expense or
about $2 billion in pretax income.
Oct. 19,2000:
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3 ] FINANCE AND INSURANCE:
How to 'marry' the right stocks
moneycentral.msn.com
Bruce Berkowitz, whose Fairholme Fund is up 25% year-to-date, eschews New Economy stocks. He's wedded to a simple approach: Pick just a few winners, scrutinize how companies handle cash and go for the long-term commitment.
VARIOUS OTHER ISSUES IN CNC:
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ISSUE OF WENDT'S SALARY:
" Best post is from YAHOO
For those who still believe Wendt is overpaid - A QUESTION ARISES:
GE was paying Wendt $65 million (over 21 months) not to compete with GE Capital.
Why???"
1) cnetinvestor.com
2) cnetinvestor.com
3) cnetinvestor.com
4) cnetinvestor.com
by iben_there
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7/22/2000 ISSUE OF CNC BANKRUPTCY
AND of DILUTION of SHAREHOLDER EQUITY
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.Part I messages.yahoo.com.
Part II messages.yahoo.com.
messages.yahoo.com.
. 7/28/00 :ISSUE of FABER CNBC REPORT & CONTROVERSY
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.( ie that Wendt is going to dilute shareholder equity ?).
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.7/29/00 reply by ta to FABER Report: CNBC FABER is either LYING or MISINFORMED
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. 7/24/00 Cnet : ''We're not going to be diluting shareholder value at ridiculously low prices,'' Wendt said.
cnetinvestor.com
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7/31/00 FABER CORRECTS HIMSELF:
" CNC WILL N O T ISSUE ANY N E W EQUITY ".
.http://boards.cnbc.com/jetson/message.asp?forumid=1695&messageid=459074&threadid=459074
Thank you Mr. FABER.
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ISSUE OF PRODUCING A GIANT SHORT SQUEEZE:
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8-29-00The Original PAC-MAN Short_Squeeze Strategy remains intact and in force
Silicon Investor version
Message 14284021
RB Version
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First, to effect a short squeeze in CNC and see a giant squirt
of cash upwards in your CNC stock:
a) ask your broker to put the stock certificate
out of Street name, and in YOUR name or
b) simply ask him to restrict it, ie you don't want to have it
loaned out for shorting.
8-29: ANATOMY of A Short Squeeze
Message 14330070
8-28 Cramer:The Street Com:
Buy-In Blues
. thestreet.com
8-21-00: StreetCom.com:
What Happens When Short-Selling Goes Bad
thestreet.com
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Message 14247932
Aug: 11, 2000:REUTERS: "Liquidator" Jacobs bets on insurer's turnaround
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Message 14172703
CNC in WORTH Magazine via Maverick Capital's Hedge Fund Manager - Lee Ainslie.
Ainslie is a noted short seller who has averaged 24.8% after fees with $5B under management.
He has covered his CNC position: I am not going to go
Against somebody of Wendt's reputation
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8-1-00 Star Tribune: Neal St. Anthony/On Business:
Jacobs roars, short sellers yawn
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. 7/31/00 J.J. CRAMER FROM TheStreetCom editorializes: A great Idea !!!
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7/27/00 IRWIN JACOBS WANTS TO PRODUCE A SHORT SQUEEZE.
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He puts this Ad in Wall StJ. then other papers
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